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Posts posted by Peckris 2
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201 - 500 = 'Scarce'? That's absurd. (For currency coins minted in the millions).
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6 hours ago, Nick said:Not wishing to continue the discussion but it should be remembered that more pits closed under Harold Wilson (1964-1970) than under Margaret Thatcher (1979-1990).
Mines closed steadily from the late 60s onwards as other sources of fuel became available. But only in 1984-1986 were they closed by violent confrontation between the miners and the forces deliberately unleashed by the government of the day.
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14 minutes ago, blakeyboy said:Oops. That's a download. Now deleted to be on the safe side...
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7 hours ago, Madness said:If there were a risk that the price of less common varieties of 1787 sixpences were to rise I'd be loath to publish. Surely this is the dilemma that faces all specialist collectors that decide to conduct die studies. Perhaps I'll delay presenting the results of my research until I've collected everything I want. That could take quite some time. Another benefit, though, would be that I could illustrate the research with photos of my own specimens rather than wading through the legalities of obtaining permission to publish others' material.
Has anyone else here been in a similar position?
I think you would gain far more from being an acknowledged expert in your chosen field than a marginal gain in scarcer varieties would cost you (as you're possibly the first to this, you can infer that there aren't a huge number of variety collectors for 1787 silver). If it was me, I'd publish and be damned, though after taking Rob's advice above.
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11 minutes ago, Madness said:It's possible to not be offended by criticism, as in this instance.
There was no criticism! Shall we leave this here?
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1 hour ago, Madness said:No offence taken.
1 hour ago, Madness said:Criticism in this case is falling on deaf ears.
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100€? That's not a great deal really. And if it is truly a rare variety, then worth the gamble, especially if you're a specialist like our friend.
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10 hours ago, Rob said:From my own experience, I was given a warning for working too hard when at the post office after graduation. I was told in no uncertain terms that it took 10 minutes to load this van, 20 for that, 45 for another. And the funereal pace of the mail bag folding area would have embarrassed even the most lethargic, with a rate of 2 per minute, the bags neatly folded with such perfection that it would have put many a laundry to shame. They could have relieved the boredom by doing a bag every 15 seconds, but that was the agreed rate. Only available to permanent staff, the list of people putting their name down for this jolly was lengthy. That was my life in the 70s, and I didn't like it either.
I don't dispute that in the 70s there was a peculiar attitude to work, with dreaded words like 'demarcation' holding sway, and rigid lines that tended often to curb entrepreneurial enthusiasm. However, as you said, "nothing happens in isolation" and those less-than-savoury 70s attitudes to work arose because of the earlier exploitation of workers that was so widespread before WW2. Thatcher was the counter balance to that, but she went too far the other way : her government was deliberately antagonistic - even militant - towards the miners, who like the steelworkers and shipbuilders got virtually no help once their community's jobs had gone. She encouraged people to buy their own council houses (good) but then didn't build more social housing (bad). She was a virtual slave to free market economics courtesy of Keith Joseph, and any liberal tendencies in her government ("The Wets") were ruthlessly purged. She did help get our economy back on a sounder footing (though being a member of the EU also had a lot to do with that), but the price we as a nation paid in societal terms was high. Too high.
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Yes - you've circled part of what I call the "main upright" (I'm not a musician, I don't know the technical terms!). That is a version of the Irish national emblem of a harp engraved with a Celtic design. I can see that fairly clearly from the enlarged picture you've shown. The other picture shows a plain harp.
No offence, but I think you could perhaps have done a bit more research before 'throwing every penny at it'? If it's a known variant you would then be able to look up its rarity (it may indeed be rare, but I'm not so knowledgeable as you are on these particular coins).
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The two harps are different - one has a Celtic design on the main upright, the other is nearly plain.
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3 hours ago, blakeyboy said:Yes, all of the above, but it wasn't the result of the actions of just one person - it never is.
It was however, the result of Thatcherism, and she was the main architect of that.
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The existence of a rare-by-then overdate in 1893 makes me wonder if the OH was intended to be for 1893 like the silver but they postponed it until 1895 and used some 1892 dies for pennies?
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I think I recognise the style - I have some silver "jubilee" plaques of Liz dated 1978 with the legend VIVAT REGINA. Same designer perhaps, maybe same private mint?
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5 minutes ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:@Peckris 2 thanks for that, I'll revisit mine and see if I have anything going on there! - that was a JH wasn't it?
Yes - the YH version has longer teeth.
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1 hour ago, Rob said:Will somebody tell him it's a copy (and not silver) please. I did and he said he would look into it, but hasn't looked very hard so far.
Done.
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Do you mean the longest or shortest string? If longest, that's not the string, it's part of the female figure.
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Yes, the Gothic v looks rather like a b when worn sufficiently.
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On 11 October 2018 at 10:58 AM, blakeyboy said:Only if you were lazy.
Or sick.
Or disabled.
Or a single parent.
Or homeless.
Or an unemployed miner, steelworker, shipyard worker.
Or elderly trying to live on the state pension.
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On 11 October 2018 at 11:17 PM, Unwilling Numismatist said:out of interest would you happen to have any images you could post or mail me please Peck?
Sure thing. The main difference is in the date: the first 8 appears to be punched over a higher 8 (I think), and the 7 is quite a bit further from the 188 than is normal.
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That Bradman calls for this...
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On 13 October 2018 at 8:38 PM, DaveG38 said:Here's another one of my compositions, sung by Mrs G.
https://soundcloud.com/user-57587141/fire-in-the-water
Nice chord progressions.
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Perhaps the original owner had run out of sixpences?
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You too can have an "uncirculated" 1968 10p for a very reasonable price! I guess 1969 - 1981 are sold out?
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On 9 October 2018 at 3:36 PM, craigy said:Damn - sold out! Well, that's saved me £550.
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Madness' Coin Grading Training Ground
in Beginners area
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The site says the winning price was $336? (Which presumably includes buyers premium which you would have known about before bidding). However, to go from there to $431 seems very harsh. Did they mention all those charges in the small print or could you challenge them on it?