TomGoodheart

Was the first a large auction house? I'm bemused by the need to register with auctionet afterwards. How difficult is it to have someone take card payments over the phone, particularly as you presumably were able to bid without doing so? Sounds overly complicated! ?? Surely, buyer's premium is added to the hammer cost. So it's something that I do have to pay (plus vat) as a buyer. And take into consideration when bidding. I also bear it in mind when reviewing what level of 'service' I feel I've received, such as speed and cost of dispatch and the level of care taken to safely package my purchases. That the seller might not get as much because everyone is adjusting their bids down by 30% is of course also an issue.

Hi Erika. Best that can be done regarding ID is Spink 2799, Sharp G1/2. When it was new it would have looked a bit like the one shown below. The privy mark is impossible to make out so it could date from anywhere between 4 Jul 1639 and 28 May 1643. It was struck in (the Tower of) London. As to value, that's all in the ladle. The coin's not worth removing as it has little intrinsic value on it's own, due to wear. Hope that helps!

Still looking for the above! 😁

Anyone recognise this handwriting please? For a medallet the collector bought from the Spink Circular in 1998, so active then (and possibly until recently). Medal collection so maybe a long shot but .. Thanks!

50 bitcoin and it's yours Paul ..

I must be getting old but I just don't get it. It says MS68. What the hell does that mean? It's a shiny disk, but it's not currency (as we know it Jim). Why does it need grading? If they wanted they could just say 'Genuine' but I feel that the whole grading-things-that-don't-merit-grading just makes the TPGS thing even more ridiculous than it already was. I can see the point in things that might circulate. Like trading cards, banknotes or comics. But this is like grading the box the trading cards come in! The metal disk has no significance beyond what it holds .. except perhaps to a museum as a curiosity. It's just daft IMHO. Or maybe it's just me?

I suppose it's not much different from listings for knife money, cowrie shells or trade beads. Or trading cards, beanie babies or tulip bulbs. Novelties indeed for the majority of us ...

In the 'Contributors' section @Rob. Link ... https://www.britnumsoc.org/contributors/2-uncategorised/266-6-people-pages-coin-tickets

From Gary's bit on the BNS site @Rob.. I could believe it's the same hand ..

Yes. Facebook search is poor. Mainly I suspect because the FB format wasn't really designed for such things as detailed discussion. However it has the numbers as it's still commonly used by people of my age to keep in touch with far-spread family members. A few of us did set up a series of posts detailing the coinage of Charles I on the The Coins of Charles I, King of England, Scotland and Ireland group, but even those seem to be buried now. And yes, @Coinery that's the one. Though like others it's still a sales site for the admins there, it's a bit more active than many and has reasonably interesting content. @Rob I think groups tend to specialise so they don't get swamped with content which, for most members, is of limited interest. Still get Roman, European and modern coins on the English Hammered group Stu highlighted above, but Admins remove them promptly as they fall outside the scope of that group. There are places that have a broader coverage, such as Coin Community Forum, but even there they set aside sub-forums for different areas ... Agreed. The setup here is much better for keeping tabs on things of interest and getting alerts for what's new. And yes, I'm on 'the internet' a lot. About 70 permanently open tabs, several hours every day .. and I still miss things that interest me at times. 😕 But then I don't go to coin fairs, so buying online or bidding, again online, at auction is how I keep building my collection. It's also easier than a trip to the British Museum or Library when I want to do a bit of research, so to me the time 'invested' is worth it ..

I belong to a couple which, occasionally, have more interesting posts. Most I agree appear to have been set up primarily as a selling platform. But a few have a lot of expertise to hand. For example English Hammered and Early Milled has Dave Greenhalgh, Paul Withers, Gary Oddie who a few here may know. But it's hard to keep a group 'educational' and free (or at least not overwhelmed) from 'Need an ID an what's it worth' posts .. Plus, perhaps not unsurprisingly, a fair few dealers are offering their stock on FB before ebay and sometimes in preference to (or at least before) listing on their own sites. It makes it more of a challenge to find things you want before they're snapped up, though I perfectly understand a sale is a sale and when there are over 15000 members to a group, even if only 5% are really active it's a pretty effective platform .. As for here .. I do pop in regularly. However my collecting interests are really very narrow these days and there's not much overlap with the forum content ...

Very nice! Did Shirley suggest they are still working on cabinets at all? Seems a shame there's nobody to take over, though I can quite sympathise if they feel it's time to retire!

I have no control over such things I'm afraid, but I've messaged Chris.

The personal is political

But doesn't that ignore the connections between personal experience and larger social and political structures? Which is perhaps the purpose of weaponising such terms as woke. To get people arguing about the details, while their rights are gradually taken away. Rights aren't like cake. Someone else getting better access to society doesn't mean everyone else gets less. We all gain when society is fairer and it's not unreasonable to judge a society by how it treats it's least members. Unfortunately the focus at the moment seems to be on those that have most and just want more. Not that that's a new thing.

Well, they were generally supportive of womens suffrage and wider access to society. And likely anti-slavery. As for gender, that's a more modern issue as science and society have progressed, though there were people living as another gender as far back as the 19th century .. I expect they would have been labelled 'liberal' and criticised for interfering with a free market and 'tradition' .. Ultimately I see this through the lens of those detective stories where one has to ask 'who benefits/gains from this?' If you are a weak and not particularly popular leader, what better way to dilute your opposition than to get the general population angry about minor issues over the important ones? A 'war' with Ukraine distracts from problems in Russia. Abortion, gender and 'the swamp' distract from poor social support and increasing division of wealth in the US. A focus on homosexuality or religion/race distracts from questions about freedom of assembly, excessive prison terms, killings of opposition supporters elsewhere. Woke is now just a pejorative, like 'anti-fa' or BLM for what a long time ago would probably have been thought of as part of being 'socially conscious'.

To me "woke" is just a dismissive term for things some people don't like. It's become so much a catch all it's almost meaningless beyond a rallying cry. Were philanthropists such as Lever 'woke'? They'd have possibly said they were spreading the ideals of Christian brotherhood. Similarly those who opened university education to women or advanced suffrage. All things that I suggest, were they proposed today, might get shot down by some. Leftists (I include myself) just feel there could be more compassion and recognition of the difficulties faced by 'under-dogs' in society, whether they are poor, an ethnic or religious minority, or differ from the majority in some other way. However it feels as if almost any attempt to provide opportunities for them to achieve their potential, or to recognise that they do struggle because of the attitudes within society, is often labelled as woke. Of course, to question how a number of so called Christian conservatives drifted so far from the message of Christ and now actively focus on issues such as gender, abortion, sexuality, to further divide society and ridicule those that disagree with them, is peak woke. That they play a part in punitive laws against, homosexuality and womens rights being introduced in parts of Africa, Russia or Hungary is not something often discussed in our media. Perhaps because they are busy targeting refugees. How woke of me to suggest it.

I have to say, this is all most interesting. I was really missing this sort of thing after Musk dumbed down Twitter and handed it to people with more dollars than sense. But now I can come here and see it all laid out again! Though I'm not sure a small coin forum is quite the replacement for TwiXer the social media world had hoped for.

And where does it leave whoever paid those $millions?