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newheart
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Different types of marks, or different types of fake coins? (newbie question, sorry!)
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Ah yes - now even I have heard about that mark! But I didn't spot it...
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Fake or ridiculous price?
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Nicely preserved!
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Thanks Coinery, that makes sense.
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I don't think it is pewter, though if it goes grey in a few years I will stand corrected. It feels and sounds metallic. Yes I agree about the legend, though I did read that the legends on the continental copies could be nonsense, given that most people would not be able to read them. Are the edges on hammered coins usually smooth? This one is slightly rough, with a lip as if it has been stamped out of a larger piece of metal. Also, if it is a modern copy I don't understand how the features seem so worn. For example, the 'rope' type beading around the kings head is smooth and levelled off. See photo. Could this be a bad pressing, or intentional deception? One other feature of this coin (and please remember I have been collecting coins for just a few weeks!) is that the coin is domed, it wobbles on a flat surface with a high spot in the centre of the coin. I am not too bothered if this is a modern copy, it was cheap and I think it will stay in my collection due to the intrigue and hours spent researching this era!
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Too clean, too bright, too sharp?
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Interesting. On both sides or just the reverse? I had a look at his catalogue, and none look like this one. The size is wrong compared to his offerings too. I re-measured mine and it is nearer 19.5mm (3/4"). I have emailed Moneta Grunal with a photo to ask if it is one of his.
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Thanks, I will take a look. Does he mark his coins to indicate they are copies (or is it a numismatics occupational risk)?
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Could be, though to my untrained eye is it quite convincing, with wear in the right places. Was from a seller who does not sell usually sell coins. Only cost me £11.Certainly has been educational so far!
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Yes I noticed the "good con". The " edward 1-111 style coin " also worried me! But I took a punt on this because the seller was rarely selling coins. See other thread
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Ooh I will take a look, ta!
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Could be, though to my untrained eye is it quite convincing, with wear in the right places. Was from a seller who does not sell usually sell coins. Only cost me £11.Certainly has been educational so far!
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Shilling Elephant Victoria head ?!
newheart replied to Mumra's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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How can you tell?
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" its not English, they did imitate them in Europe in this period but i've never seen one like that, " - I wondered about that. I could not find any quite like this - the crown especially is quite distinctive.
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Phew!!
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Strange. I am hosting these pictures on my own web site, it should work ok. This is what I can see:
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Spinks describes an Edward 3 penny as having an "annulet in each quarter". What is an annulet? Thanks!
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Thanks Craigy! Do they sometimes appear in pairs, like a figure 8? Like this?
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To be fair, IF the buyer realises what he has bought is not as described, s/he should be able to get a refund via eBay dispute. It is mis-described.
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Got this from a someone who was 'selling off their grandfathers coin collection'. Only paid a tenner. I know most are modern repros, but the discolouration between the lettering made me wonder if this might be older than the past decade. The photos do not show the patina very well. It is a shiny silver colour but there is signs of wear, especially to the reverse. Not magnetic. Found a great site about these but there is a lot of photos to work my way through.. http://www.theresia.name/en/index.html I can hear the groans already, but I read everyone should have at least one of these in their collection!
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Tried the ice test using mrbadexample's good example, and it makes more sense. The edges of a large nickel silver type modern crown take a lot longer to get cold (5+ seconds) whereas the edges of a real silver Crown from 1812 got cold within a couple of seconds. I am pleased to report the edges of my Maria Theresia Taler also cooled very quickly, a tiny bit slower than the crown but the diameter is larger.
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Oh I see! Will have to try it again - thanks mrbadexample.
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Hi Rob, yes I read about that - it looked pretty complicated and my scales are accurate only to 1g, not 0.1g. If I had spent a lot of money on this coin I would give it a go (but then, I doubt I would buy that expensive a coin on eBay!). I will live with the coin and see if it changes colour over time because I am pretty sure it has been cleaned. Cheers, Pete
