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........and here is the extra (11th) leaf in case weren't sure where to find it!!

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Sadly ‘yes’ Mike, I have definitely looked into 1797 ships. I have owned and logged 40 different varieties of 1797 ships paired with 10-leaf obverses, and a further 7 different ships paired with the 11-leaf obverse. I have taken digital microscope pictures, all to exactly the same scale (65x), for comparison. I have now sold all but 4 examples retained in my collection. Apart from the number of gun port differences there are also many distinct differences in positioning of flag, bowsprit, platform, sails and rigging, also size of ships, roughness of sea and angle of ship in the sea. I attach 8 examples to demonstrate some of the differences I found, reduced in size to meet the site 500Kb limit. Hope this helps!

Ian, are you happy that I add these pics to my varieties website, crediting you ?

Surely not Mike? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123939606539?hash=item1cdb60500b:g:AhkAAOSwBLlVAWXk

It might be in contention for Best Line of the Year...

I am pleased to award you 'Blakeyboy's Line of the Month'. Not bad, seeing it's only just the 16th....

Much like many Ebay sellers.................

Quite by chance when searching for something else, I've found some old articles relating to Bramah, which some may find of interest. Listener Article part 1 Listener Article part 2 Obituary (from 1942)

Italian State of Livorno - see https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces51310.html