Richard II Halfpenny ID?

[Coinery 926]

I've just bought this 191682428067 tonight to flip, does anyone have the Withers book and a couple of minutes spare to properly ID it for me? Only until I get my own copy, of course, which is imminent!

[Paulus 1,942]

Nice one Stu, even I can see that it says 'Richard' on it! But I don't collect these and don't have a copy of Withers, I'm sure it will be ID'd in no time though!

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Edited September 9, 2015 by Paulus

[Rob 3,002]

1b(iii)

[Coinery 926]

1b(iii)

Many thanks, Rob! How does that work with Spink, as now I'm TOTALLY confused? I've got it down as a North 1331b Type II on account of the ANGL legend and lomardic N with '(rarely) Roman Ns on the reverse,' which for me makes it S1699 BUT with a Roman N reverse?

Sorry to take up your time, but what do you think?

[Rob 3,002]

According to Withers, that is S1699 and N1331b. However, with Spink dividing R2 halfpennies into 4 references and Withers only using 2 of these (1698 & 1699) in the edition I have, it is necessary to do a bit of interpretation. Withers types 2, 3 4 & 5 aren't given a Spink ref. but do note that many have fishtail serifs which would imply S1700. The fishtails are also noted with type 1, but not 1B, 1C, 1D or 4(late). Types 2 onwards are noted as having a number of lettering styles which presumably equates to S1700A's short, stubby letters. There is no sub-division in Withers to take account of letter styles.

Spink list 4 types and Withers 9, so it isn't surprising that there are conflicts.

[Coinery 926]

Brilliant, and many thanks again! Better get the book I think!

[Coinery 926]

Very strange! I was looking over the 'completed items' section on eBay, to see if there were any 'identified' reverse Roman N halfpennies of Richard sold, just to give me a starting place for pricing on the 'bay, and guess what I found? The exact halfpenny I bought 191668757635 sold by the same seller, correctly identified as a R2 halfpenny. How odd that he should be selling it a little while later with an Ed2 farthing, describing it as 'Edward halfpenny and farthing I think'? Very odd! Perhaps a little reverse psychology experiment? Who knows?

Anyway, it's been nicely recycled to a prominent halfpenny collector now. Think I undercut myself a little bit, as this was also a reversed Roman N reverse! Good thing is I reckon everyone's happy, and I enjoyed the process! Great coining, love it!

[Coinery 926]

Oh, and I forgot to mention...flipping this halfpenny bought me the book! WHAT a hobby!