US Liberty Head Gold Double Eagle

[HeavyT 7]

Does anyone have a view on how this coin might grade if it were slabbed by NGC or PCGS:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1899-UNITED-STATES-20-GOLD-LIBERTY-HEAD-DOUBLE-EAGLE-ICG-MS63-RICH-LUSTER-/351460932300?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksi

It's already graded MS63 but ICG but I've never heard of them and just wondering if these smaller companies are more likley to overgrade coins.

[Peter 615]

Nasty dig on the obverse.

I would call it less than MS because it isn't.

[RLC35 288]

Does anyone have a view on how this coin might grade if it were slabbed by NGC or PCGS:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1899-UNITED-STATES-20-GOLD-LIBERTY-HEAD-DOUBLE-EAGLE-ICG-MS63-RICH-LUSTER-/351460932300?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksi

It's already graded MS63 but ICG but I've never heard of them and just wondering if these smaller companies are more likley to overgrade coins.

I think that would be a MS62 or maybe MS63 by PCGS or NGC.

btw Pete, I think that mark may just be a bag mark. Gold coins seen to mark easier due to them being relatively soft, and the $20 Double Eagle being so heavy.

[VickySilver 775]

I agree with that. Looks like a copper oxidation spot enhancing the bag mark and a bit also at the bust truncation...