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VickySilver

The Elusive 2002 Jamaica Proof Set Remains So

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I've not been able to shake loose the other 2002 set, and the buyer of this one says that he also got the very rare 1984 Jamaica specimen set! I have not seen that and only one rumoured, perhaps in Russia. I am wondering if the Franklin Mint somehow had a European dealer or depot for some of their later offerings which never made it to the states. I never saw 1984 specimen sets of any of their client countries, and then got the Belize set about 1 1/2 years ago. 

Their coins of all nations - which include specimen quality coins - offered in the 1990s in huge cardboard format, complete with usually one stamp from the host country is a source for some otherwise VERY scarce coins. I wonder if they just had some coin laying around and through them in. Most of the coins in these sets however are NOT FM issue, so one must look carefully.

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20 hours ago, VickySilver said:

I've not been able to shake loose the other 2002 set, and the buyer of this one says that he also got the very rare 1984 Jamaica specimen set! I have not seen that and only one rumoured, perhaps in Russia. I am wondering if the Franklin Mint somehow had a European dealer or depot for some of their later offerings which never made it to the states.

Weren't their later coins made to order? I got a 1982 or 1983 set not long ago that came with a pamphlet about ordering which suggested they would make as many as they got order for (and I guess would explain the non-round numbers produced).

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Good question - I  am not sure anyone knows the answer as records are quite scarce for especially the specimen sets (as opposed to the proof sets which were only a bit spotty). I do know that up until 1984, the FM would advertise in the various numismatic papers and journals and would  send out fliers to those on their mailing list that had purchased sets in previous years; even though I was in college I used to get specimen sets in those days which were about 30.00 USD per set as opposed to the proof sets which mostly included at least silver crowns and cost much more.

As they were in some difficulty for whatever reason  after a sale of the parent company, interest and sales petered out in the years after 1981. There also was the expose on the 60 Minutes TV show in 1978 that turned some away....

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Update: no update.

I have found a few RM issued proof sets that are excessively rare (more than likely) as they simply do not appear for sale and searches for them are for nought. I wish we could shake loose some numbers on many of the sets struck for foreign entities but that is rather unlikely as we don't to my knowledge even have numbers on the Queen's Beasts coins.

I suspect that some of the silver crowns and sets that include them were made only to very small numbers, and much less than authorised mintages; the currency copper-nickel possibly even lower if they were not released as huge batches to the Central Banks or whatever local banking authority was used. I think this makes for an interesting area to collect in the old sense of the word as they may never have much value but generate some entertainment in the hunt.

 

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On 8/27/2018 at 2:47 AM, VickySilver said:

I think this makes for an interesting area to collect in the old sense of the word as they may never have much value but generate some entertainment in the hunt.

 

It's frustrating I find (still working on my Cook Islands and Solomon Islands collections with no end in sight) but it's very satisfying ticking one off the list.

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Nice. I have noticed a couple of the Falkland sets are quite rare - specimen an proof sets of 1992, 1999, and 2004.

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Yikes, I still have not been able to find either the 2002 Jamaica Proof set, or the 1984 Franklin Mint Specimen Set. I have managed to get TWO of the goofy crowns of the former, featuring a somewhat portly female runner - who the heck designed this? Maybe I will be able to trade at a later date.

 

As always if anyone should locate any of this esoterica, or information please PM me.

 

PS - As a footnote, I was just able to purchase both obverse and reverse DIES for the Panama 1985 gold 20 balboas - they are cancelled with but one central chisel mark.

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