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I wasn't really sure where to post this. It's not really coin related, but we don't have a sub-forum that seemed appropriate either.

Anyway, I just bought myself an early Christmas present of this:

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..and wondered if anyone knows much about them? As far as I can make out the references would be MI 360/231; Eimer 167, but further details would be of interest.

In particular, if anyone knows of any other easily available papers (apart from Helen Farquhar's 1905 BNJ article on Stuart portraiture) I'd like to know of it. The reason I ask is I'm interested in whether there appear to have been any conventions as to which similar medals are found gilded and which are not, as I thought I might gild this one.

And before anyone yells too loud, no it's not an original (my coin budget wouldn't stretch to that) but a modern copy in white metal so no sacrilege will be committed. It's just it ties in with both my interest in Charles I and religious medals/amulets/talismans...

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This is an original, but it is very worn as you can see. According to the dealer from whom I acquired it (Mark Ras), it was probably made (in silver) and sold by a street vendor at the time of the marriage (Charles II and Catherine of Braganza).

As such I doubt it will be found in any papers or journals!

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This is an original, but it is very worn as you can see. According to the dealer from whom I acquired it (Mark Ras), it was probably made (in silver) and sold by a street vendor at the time of the marriage (Charles II and Catherine of Braganza).

As such I doubt it will be found in any papers or journals!

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Looks to be a variant on MI 483/96 where Catherine wears her hair in the Portuguese style. Helen Farquhar (p 278 of her article) describes it as "so unpleasing and badly executed, that excepting for their historical interest, no one could wish to possess one," though personally I think it has a certain charm. And undoubtedly historical interest (since it must have been bought by a Royalist supporter and presumably worn by them) so a real link to the past!

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Just reading that fascinating article now, and as you say my item is very similar to the example pictured on page 278 - the specimen that is "perhaps the ugliest of all"! Gee thanks Miss Farquhar, but it's hard to disagree!

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Interesting pieces gents.

We need more of this.

I buy a variety of items from flint arrow heads to clay pipes.

I've also amassed musket balls and fossils from deliveries of stone to various sites I've worked on.

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Would love one of those.

I presume you mean a genuine example Scott? Sadly they aren't cheap, even smaller ones like Paul's due to scarcity and demand. Whereas a copy like mine ... not so much!

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I agree Scott

Bits of history are great.

I do a bit of field walking (with out the detector)

My Dog loves it as he circles me plus I work off the Sunday roast.

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For info, my Royalist marriage badge is 25mm at its widest by 20mm at the narrowest, weighs 2.8g and cost me £50. I don't know if that's the going rate for examples in this size and condition, but I consider it an absolute bargain!

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For info, my Royalist marriage badge is 25mm at its widest by 20mm at the narrowest, weighs 2.8g and cost me £50. I don't know if that's the going rate for examples in this size and condition, but I consider it an absolute bargain!

LOL I'd have guessed you might have paid five times that Paul. Seems quite fair to me!

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I'm not the greediest bugger in the world, but I sold one 30-40% worse than Paul's for £150 last year and the buyer was ecstatic.

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I'll guess I post it here instead of starting a new thread - small 19.9 mm silver medal commemorating the 1817 Waterloo Bridge opening with prince regent George (IV) on obverse. 1_samlet-a.jpg

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