1861 over lower 1 variety

[zookeeperz 470]

Hi folks. I saw on another topic the Half-Penny 1/1 varieties. But I don't see anything listed here or anywhere else on 1861 penny varieties other than the listed varieties. For a change this was an easy spot. I wonder if you could tell me if this a new or existing variety and possible value. I think if I have done my research correctly (slim chance lol) its Obv 6 Rev D . Any help will be most appreciated

[azda 973]

It won't run into hundreds of Pounds, so excitment should be contained. Just because it's not listed does'nt mean it's not been noted previously, the date itself is fairly common, but i would'nt place a mortgage on a minor overstrike....................

Good spot though

[RLC35 288]

Hi folks. I saw on another topic the Half-Penny 1/1 varieties. But I don't see anything listed here or anywhere else on 1861 penny varieties other than the listed varieties. For a change this was an easy spot. I wonder if you could tell me if this a new or existing variety and possible value. I think if I have done my research correctly (slim chance lol) its Obv 6 Rev D . Any help will be most appreciated 1861overlower1-horz.jpg1861overlower1obv-horz.jpg

Zooie...Here is a Half Penny with the 1st "1" way above the date area!......

[Prax 80]

6+D it is

1 over 1 is fairly common and Gouby mentions it as a sub in his book. The interesting bit is the groove that is cut on the rocks above the 1.

The coin would be worth 40% premium (personal opinion) over the normal 6+D

Edited April 25, 2015 by Prax

[zookeeperz 470]

Thanks . Very interesting area for me. I am like a moth to a flame to anything that is remotely suspicious. Lots of duds but now and then persistance does bare a reward. I just thumbed thrugh the die pairings in Michaels book. I took it that this was obverse 6 as the proximity of the B to Victoria's head but the lower leaf at the front does not point above the top colon . The outer ribbon has a kink in the top part and its basically a straight drop from there. The pic in the book shows a definite inward curve on the top half with an even more exagerated outward curve at the bottom. The hair could be just from wear but I don't see anything there at all other than the tuft closest to the ribbon. Most can prob be down to wear I guess but the ribbon is of major concern. But thanks guys for your answers. I greatly appreciate the feedback. Seems google or any search engine these days has set places to send you and thats your lot.. lol.

[PWA 1967 1,841]

1861F2761st1over1.jpg

Hi folks. I saw on another topic the Half-Penny 1/1 varieties. But I don't see anything listed here or anywhere else on 1861 penny varieties other than the listed varieties. For a change this was an easy spot. I wonder if you could tell me if this a new or existing variety and possible value. I think if I have done my research correctly (slim chance lol) its Obv 6 Rev D . Any help will be most appreciated

Zooie...Here is a Half Penny with the 1st "1" way above the date area!......

That one really stands out bob

[Paulus 1,942]

1861F2761st1over1.jpg

Hi folks. I saw on another topic the Half-Penny 1/1 varieties. But I don't see anything listed here or anywhere else on 1861 penny varieties other than the listed varieties. For a change this was an easy spot. I wonder if you could tell me if this a new or existing variety and possible value. I think if I have done my research correctly (slim chance lol) its Obv 6 Rev D . Any help will be most appreciated

Zooie...Here is a Half Penny with the 1st "1" way above the date area!......

That one really stands out bob

Very good Pete!

[PWA 1967 1,841]

Not sure what your on about paulus ?.