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[Coinery 926]

Is the '99 tongue straight-edged, ie sloping fully upwards to the top lip? Or is it more pointed in profile? The shadow makes it hard to tell.

Are we all bored now?

[Paulus 1,942]

Is the '99 tongue straight-edged, ie sloping fully upwards to the top lip? Or is it more pointed in profile? The shadow makes it hard to tell.

Are we all bored now?

lol, I will attempt to get better pics!

[Coinery 926]

Is the '99 tongue straight-edged, ie sloping fully upwards to the top lip? Or is it more pointed in profile? The shadow makes it hard to tell.

Are we all bored now?

lol, I will attempt to get better pics!

Can you confirm with a loupe? Edited April 4, 2015 by Coinery

[Paulus 1,942]

A couple of close ups of my 1899:

[Coinery 926]

I personally think you 'may' have stumbled on something there! Where you go from here is all about the time you want to put into it?

What about trawling the CGS files, getting some serious-quality close-ups of the different types, and then maybe approach someone like Davies or, if you can convince Rob there's something going on, get him to help you through a BNS article perhaps?

I'd happily take some super-macro close-ups if you can get any coins to me?

[Coinery 926]

And, of course, there's Chris and his book! That could also be a good place to start, IF you can get some really decent close-ups to consider it properly?

[Prax 80]

Had it been a bronze penny it would have become a new "type". Imagine someone calling the ONF penny a new type. When that can become a new type, I am sure so can this. Given the 3:1 split there are more of this type. Though not my forte still thanks for enlightening the community Paul.

[Prax 80]

I agree with Stu looks like you have stumbled upon something!!!!

[shagreen 24]

I have been studying these for a while and prefer to call them with and without teeth than open and closed mouths My survey of toothed vs toothless horses in the 1893 proof crown reveals

10 with teeth

18 without teeth

I strongly suspect a different matrix is involved as there are other subtle differences between the two types and yes the above confirms the toothless horse carried through other years

[Fubar 71]

This is my 1900.

Inside the mouth looks rough as if filled with crud or the die is chipped.

Maybe the mouth should be empty?

[VickySilver 775]

And I have looked at all of my 1887-1902 crowns and seen seemingly not just "either-or" but somewhat of a spectrum; some appear to have an empty mouth and others various amounts of, uhh, content and others full set of dental.

[Coinery 926]

Which does weigh in favour of damage, rather than design?