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1904 Penny UNC - BU

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1 minute ago, jelida said:

That is nice, Pete, one I'm looking out for as I try to improve my C20 penny collection.

Jerry

Email in your inbox Jerry.

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Thanks Jerry they are not that scarce the 1915 Recessed ear is alot harder.

Matt has a spare one.

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:D 

I agree about the 1915, extremely harder. Only really nice one I've seen was an LCA auction, but that's a great one.

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Yes i have seen it before and not seen anything since that compares ....atleast for sale.

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Nope, and it's one of the one you'll notice that some of the heavyweights don't even have, and if they do then it's anywhere near as good condition as the 1916.

What puzzles me is that the LCA one was listed as a recessed ear, but in their population report there is not even a variety for it to be filed under. Just one entry for 1915, but 2 for 1916.

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Not looked but the population report is only for coins slabbed and graded by them.

I have just sent a few that are not on there .

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Just had a look CGS have never graded a 1915 Recessed ear ,as i said its not what is ....but weather they have graded/slabbed one.

This is why the finest known is daft.

If you sent a problem free washer would be finest known.

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I have 15 & 16 recessed ears, both in good EF but still looking for a decent filled 5 1915 though.

I agree 1915 is harder - V R Court figures from circulation coins were

1915              277/2425       1 in 8.75          = approx mintage of  5.4 M

1916              921/4013       1 in 4.36          = approx mintage of 16.1 M

So approx 3 times as many 1916s than 1915s, and you have to search twice as many 1915s to find one

by comparison for other 20th C scarce pennies Court estimates the following mintages

1903 open 3            37,300

1908 F164a             55,550

1909 F169               23,200

1911 Gouby X        188,000

1926 ME                107,750

1946 dot                384,200

He didn't find any 1922/7, and no mention of the 1909 dot

Good luck folks for finding any of these in top grade! :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, PWA 1967 said:

Just found quite a nice 1926 ME :)

The CC coin! Well done Pete.

1911 Gouby X commoner than 1926ME? Must keep looking!

Jerry

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Yes i bought that Jerry.

A nice Gouby x in the next LCA ,although i am led to believe a lot more that are not currently shown.

Dont worry i will find you on the day,as i am sure you can lend me a few quid:P

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3 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

Dont worry i will find you on the day,as i am sure you can lend me a few quid:P

:D:D:D:ph34r:

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woah - nice penny !

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19 hours ago, davidrj said:

I have 15 & 16 recessed ears, both in good EF but still looking for a decent filled 5 1915 though.

I agree 1915 is harder - V R Court figures from circulation coins were

1915              277/2425       1 in 8.75          = approx mintage of  5.4 M

1916              921/4013       1 in 4.36          = approx mintage of 16.1 M

So approx 3 times as many 1916s than 1915s, and you have to search twice as many 1915s to find one

by comparison for other 20th C scarce pennies Court estimates the following mintages

1903 open 3            37,300

1908 F164a             55,550

1909 F169               23,200

1911 Gouby X        188,000

1926 ME                107,750

1946 dot                384,200

He didn't find any 1922/7, and no mention of the 1909 dot

Good luck folks for finding any of these in top grade! :rolleyes:

I've got the 1916 recessed ear in UNC but the 1915 only in EF. clogged 15 the best I can do is Fine, the clooged 20 I can do better at VF.

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I recently bought the 1920 filled die from ebay  if thats the coin you mention.

Its BU - UNC and the one that went unsold in the workman sale.

The 1915 filled die i have never seen one for sale in a reasonable grade.

I would be happy with the 1915 recessed ear in EF as not seen anything close to the LCA one.

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On 1/24/2016 at 2:40 PM, PWA 1967 said:

Coin arrived this morning Jac and doubt i will get a better one.

 

1916.jpg

Just received this back from CGS was graded 82.

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Did they note that it's the recessed ear variety?

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6 minutes ago, Nordle11 said:

Did they note that it's the recessed ear variety?

Yes Matt.

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At least they did something right then :ph34r:

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In fairness Matt the graders at cgs are spot on.

Occasionally mistakes are made with TPGS but can be rectified quite easily and everyone makes them.

Last year i sent over twenty copper penny varieties in one batch, mainly Bramah or not listed.

I didnt write down any information as to what i thought /new they were and just let CGS  grade them.

Although some were rejected(Happens with copper) they spotted everyone.

IMO no other TPGS would of spent the time looking at them or in some instances known the variety even existed :)

Pete.

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42 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

Just received this back from CGS was graded 82.

CGS 82 would equal MS64-65 so NGC weren't far short of the mark, an interesting comparison but in that grade on the NGC slab i wouldn't have spent anymore money having it re-graded as it's now a more expensive coin, but i know how you feel about CGS slabs Pete, hence the re-grade i assume

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I mean because they basically stuck their middle finger up at their whole user base with the changes and the way they went about it. I don't doubt too much their ability to identify the varieties though, they're definitely much better than the American TPGs with the British coinage.

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2 minutes ago, Nordle11 said:

I mean because they basically stuck their middle finger up at their whole user base with the changes and the way they went about it. I don't doubt too much their ability to identify the varieties though, they're definitely much better than the American TPGs with the British coinage.

if you quote any varieties on the submission forms then it would be checked, CGS actively look for varities and sometimes even create their own :ph34r:

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Not sure about create there own although i can only talk about pennies.

Sure they can also only say what is there or they see.

I did send one in this batch that has been listed as a new variety for them a 1920 penny.

Although the difference was obvious and a relatively low grade they i assume have to list it as different.

I have never given details on a form ,so cant really comment on that.

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