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3 hours ago, Paddy said:

Nothing special but I finally managed to spot an 1895 2mm in a pile of Victorian pennies (I think!).

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Good spot. BP 1895Aa (V + v) in the new Gouby pages.

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Bought a partial date run of pennies on ebay . Have checked them all out but need help with this one . Have ruled out everything but the F28 .No signature visible with x10 loupe or digiscope  , sea crosses border with no rocks to left of lighthouse and exergue doesn't rise at the r/h/s . Not great pics , but I will try and scan it later if needed .Any help appreciated .

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18 minutes ago, mick1271 said:

Bought a partial date run of pennies on ebay . Have checked them all out but need help with this one . Have ruled out everything but the F28 .No signature visible with x10 loupe or digiscope  , sea crosses border with no rocks to left of lighthouse and exergue doesn't rise at the r/h/s . Not great pics , but I will try and scan it later if needed .Any help appreciated .

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Pics are blurry. Difficult to confirm detail.  

So to confirm, definitely no L C WYON clearly visible under bust?    

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23 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Pics are blurry. Difficult to confirm detail.  

So to confirm, definitely no L C WYON clearly visible under bust?    

The coin has a bit of corrosion , but nothing is visible .Been staring at it for ages and apart from F28 , I can't see what else it could be . Apart from signature missing , everything else looks good for an obv 5 .Colon dots pointing in the right place etc.

 

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This is a bit better.

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still not great , but a bit better

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15 minutes ago, terrysoldpennies said:

Can you give a close up of the ribbons to be sure.

Forgive the quality of the pictures .I am not much of a photographer lol

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Below is a worn F28 .  Note the outer ribbon at its top has a fold running down along it , and the ribbon itself pinches in at the top towards the knot . only the 5 and the 6 have this and it looks to be the same on your second picture down.  Its not a 6 because the top of Victoria's head would be closer to the teeth . So yes I think its an F28.

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9 minutes ago, terrysoldpennies said:

Below is a worn F28 .  Note the outer ribbon at its top has a fold running down along it , and the ribbon itself pinches in at the top towards the knot . only the 5 and the 6 have this and it looks to be the same on your second picture down.  Its not a 6 because the top of Victoria's head would be closer to the teeth . So yes I think its an F28.

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Thanks for taking the time to look at it . The seller was selling a nearly full date run of pennies .all the better ones were being sold separately (bid on an 1845 and 1837 ,but lost both by quite a bit) , but he had a couple of bulk lots, one of which included this one and an 1831 W.W Penny (which I think is rare , but my copper knowledge is limited).The rest were the usual varieties you expect to see in a bulk lot.

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I do not intend to add Mick's coin to the population of F28s on my website without a better photograph.

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58 minutes ago, secret santa said:

I do not intend to add Mick's coin to the population of F28s on my website without a better photograph.

They are pretty poor Richard .I only have my phone (or digiscope) to take them . I have a new printer /scanner , so I will get it scanned as soon as I set it up .

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On 9/14/2020 at 8:02 AM, alfnail said:

The 1857 Gouby Date Style C is seen paired with both OT and PT; I have both types in my collection. I'm pretty sure I have seen it paired with the Ornamental Trident less often, but I have not attempted any stats on this.

The most interesting one I have found is this one (Plain Trident Reverse), which has a 'repaired' numeral 8.

Just back from holiday last night, internet was not good whilst away. Can see I missed a few posts about Victorian Copper pennies, and think I may have a few additional comments to make when get time. 

 

 

Got one - PT though, so not technically a Bramah 23a.

 

 

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17 hours ago, secret santa said:

I do not intend to add Mick's coin to the population of F28s on my website without a better photograph.

 

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17 hours ago, secret santa said:

I do not intend to add Mick's coin to the population of F28s on my website without a better photograph.

These ones are a bit lighter . Looks like my scanning skills are nearly as poor as my photography skills .

 

 

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4 hours ago, mick1271 said:

These ones are a bit lighter . Looks like my scanning skills are nearly as poor as my photography skills .

 

 

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Much better.

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11 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Much better.

Same phone I used , Finally got a bit of sun in Scotland .Decent light makes a huge difference .

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10 minutes ago, mick1271 said:

Same phone I used , Finally got a bit of sun in Scotland .Decent light makes a huge difference .

Looks like a Freeman 28 to me.

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12 hours ago, mick1271 said:

Same phone I used , Finally got a bit of sun in Scotland .Decent light makes a huge difference .

I've now added coin but need your surname, to credit you properly, Mick.

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5 hours ago, secret santa said:

I've now added coin but need your surname, to credit you properly, Mick.

Hi Richard , my 2nd name is Martin .I think there is another Mick Martin in the coin community somewhere, can't remember where I saw his name quoted  , but it caused a bit of confusion on my part . Middle initial L if that helps do differentiate .

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There was a Mick Martin who produced a comprehensive study of copper pennies I believe. I'll check.

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15 minutes ago, secret santa said:

There was a Mick Martin who produced a comprehensive study of copper pennies I believe. I'll check.

Sounds interesting.

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15 minutes ago, secret santa said:

There was a Mick Martin who produced a comprehensive study of copper pennies I believe. I'll check.

That might be where I have heard his name from . Something to do with Reading coin club as well .Definitely not me lol.

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