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That's a lovely example, John - is it a new acquisition ?

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8 minutes ago, secret santa said:

That's a lovely example, John - is it a new acquisition ?

This year, slabbed MS64, PWA did the image but free for you to use

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£6,200 for a Carrickfergus token? Estimated at £300.

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1 hour ago, Danelaw said:

£6,200 for a Carrickfergus token? Estimated at £300.

Are you selling?

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No Sir. That's what it went for at D.N.W.

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A new unlisted unofficial farthing variety which landed today. I believe it relates to the famous gun makers Holland & Holland but I'm yet to research properly. Thoughts and comments welcome 

 

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On 5/1/2020 at 9:58 AM, Paulus said:

Blimey, well done, which one have you still to acquire? I have a few still to get, including the Workhouse one.

Apologies Paulus for some reason I either didn't get a notification or I missed it, only just read your post. The only one I needed back in May was the Soho Manufactory which I bought last week from Paul Green at Holgate Numismatics (very friendly) It was in a group of 6 he bought from Spink, I'm not sure which others he has but might be worth contacting him

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1 hour ago, will1976 said:

A new unlisted unofficial farthing variety which landed today. I believe it relates to the famous gun makers Holland & Holland but I'm yet to research properly. Thoughts and comments welcome 

 

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As a keen collector of the Birmingham series....WOW ! Diameter ? 

White's 1849 Directory of Birmingham, p. 182, "Holland, Henry, gun and pistol maker, 21 Steelhouse Lane".

The Henry Holland of Holland and Holland was, according to Wikipedia, only apprenticed in 1861, so possibly this piece is unrelated. 

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1 hour ago, JLS said:

As a keen collector of the Birmingham series....WOW ! Diameter

White's 1849 Directory of Birmingham, p. 182, "Holland, Henry, gun and pistol maker, 21 Steelhouse Lane".

The Henry Holland of Holland and Holland was, according to Wikipedia, only apprenticed in 1861, so possibly this piece is unrelated. 

It's 24mm diameter so one of the larger ones in the series. Milled edge.

It does seem unlikely that it is related to Holland & Holland on further thought as Harris Holland sounded quite controlling according to the Wikipedia article. Also an article in the 'Vintage Gun Journal' https://www.vintageguns.co.uk/magazine/a-harris-holland-restored gives a start date for the apprenticeship as 1876. It also poses the question of why Henry Holland is on the token not Holland & Holland 

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Another new addition, possibly an unlisted unofficial farthing but unsure on this one. If it is it must be one of the last few issued date wise. 21½mm diameter and quite thick at 2mm, appears to be cupro-nickel. The Reverse is a similar version of the the Remington typewriter token 

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For some reason I can't add pictures at the moment. 🤔

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