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Hello, having recently emptied my fathers house after his death, I came across a small selection of old coins, there was the usual victorian penny, silver sixpence tec etc but also 2 large ones! After checking around on the internet, ive found them, 1 is a 'piece of eight' dated 1740 in good condition and the other is a gold Gondorian coin. These coins are of no interest to me as I do not collect myself so am asking you experts a realistic value and the best place to advertise/sell them.

links to pics of each (not actual pics but these are the identical coins)

http://www.jamesmerritt.net/demo31/display.php?cartid=201012178428332&zid=1&lid=1&psku=COIN_Gondor&mode=sp

http://time-lines.co.uk/hollandia-piece-of-eight-shipwreck-coin-02-13464-0.html

many thanks for any help you can give.

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Hello, having recently emptied my fathers house after his death, I came across a small selection of old coins, there was the usual victorian penny, silver sixpence tec etc but also 2 large ones! After checking around on the internet, ive found them, 1 is a 'piece of eight' dated 1740 in good condition and the other is a gold Gondorian coin. These coins are of no interest to me as I do not collect myself so am asking you experts a realistic value and the best place to advertise/sell them.

links to pics of each (not actual pics but these are the identical coins)

http://www.jamesmerritt.net/demo31/display.php?cartid=201012178428332&zid=1&lid=1&psku=COIN_Gondor&mode=sp

http://time-lines.co.uk/hollandia-piece-of-eight-shipwreck-coin-02-13464-0.html

many thanks for any help you can give.

Nevertheless, actual pictures of YOUR coins would be of immense help to us (or scans of both sides). No disrespect, but grading is an art acquired over years of experience, and one man's 'good condition' often turns out to be ... well, not!

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Please excuse me if I sound impertinent here, as I neither intend or wish to.

Are you sure that you mean Gondorian (Of Gondor) and not Gondarian (Of Gondar)?

The reason that I ask is that Gondor is a fictional place within 'Middle Earth' (J.R.R. Tolkien) and Gondar is a real place in Ethiopia.

If it is a Gold Gondorian Coin, then it must surely be a 'Fantasy' replica piece?

I am sorry to question you, it is just that I wanted to double check. :)

The reason that I ask is if is a 'Fantasy' replica piece is that you may be better trying E-Bay or perhaps contacting someone who specialises in such items, as I can't imagine an average Coin Collector being interested in such an item.

If it is a Ethiopian Gold Coin, then again, contacting someone who specialises in such items would be the better option, or perhaps even contacting a Museum.

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http://time-lines.co...02-13464-0.html

This piece is a Spanish Pillar (possibly 8 Reales) as there's different denominations of these and were generally issued in South America Mexico, Peru, Gutaemala etc, hence the shipwrecked part that you found. A picture would be more helpful of the piece you have as there's specific mintmarks on these coins.

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Please excuse me if I sound impertinent here, as I neither intend or wish to.

Are you sure that you mean Gondorian (Of Gondor) and not Gondarian (Of Gondar)?

The reason that I ask is that Gondor is a fictional place within 'Middle Earth' (J.R.R. Tolkien) and Gondar is a real place in Ethiopia.

If it is a Gold Gondorian Coin, then it must surely be a 'Fantasy' replica piece?

I am sorry to question you, it is just that I wanted to double check. :)

The reason that I ask is if is a 'Fantasy' replica piece is that you may be better trying E-Bay or perhaps contacting someone who specialises in such items, as I can't imagine an average Coin Collector being interested in such an item.

If it is a Ethiopian Gold Coin, then again, contacting someone who specialises in such items would be the better option, or perhaps even contacting a Museum.

If you check the front page of the website robj this is what it says:

Welcome to an online demonstration of FishCart!. We've put together a FishCart with a few products from Middle Earth to show you how it works in practice. Of course, this is for demonstration only, so none of these will be showing up on your doorstep next week!

This demonstration includes the v.U integrated UPS Online® Shipping Tools; these are running live to show you the speed and operation of the system. Each of the tools can be seen in real time operation, with actual results from real tracking numbers.

It looks to be some sort of test for a website cart or something

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If you check the front page of the website robj this is what it says:

Welcome to an online demonstration of FishCart!. We've put together a FishCart with a few products from Middle Earth to show you how it works in practice. Of course, this is for demonstration only, so none of these will be showing up on your doorstep next week!

This demonstration includes the v.U integrated UPS Online® Shipping Tools; these are running live to show you the speed and operation of the system. Each of the tools can be seen in real time operation, with actual results from real tracking numbers.

It looks to be some sort of test for a website cart or something

Thanks for that Azda. :)

My Browser would not let me open the Link for some reason, so I did not see that information. Which is why I thought I'd ask. :)

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Pictures of the coins now uploaded, I am looking for a value on these from you experts please :) and any interest as I am not a collector myself.

Thank You

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/723/s7303528.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4601/s7303529m.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6563/s7303530.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8396/s7303531.jpg

The second coin appears to be a Mary Fine Sovereign with a value of 30 shillings and dated 1553. However, there are modern forgeries of these, so you will need an expert opinion about its bona fides before you get too excited. I don't know enough about them to say whether yours is a forgery or not.

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Pictures of the coins now uploaded, I am looking for a value on these from you experts please :) and any interest as I am not a collector myself.

Thank You

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/723/s7303528.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4601/s7303529m.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6563/s7303530.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8396/s7303531.jpg

Peanuts.

The first has COPY on the obverse which is a bit of a giveaway. The second has little pits all over the surface which is indicative of a cast and it also has COPY inside the inner circle on the reverse at 4 o'clock.

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1st image is a spanish 8 reales from the Mexico mint, you can See the M with the O above it in the REV, looks like a FIne grade, but always get these verified. No idea of Value , maybe someone has a Krause book at hand

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Lol, i didn't even notice that, Kind of a giveaway tho :)

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Thanks for your input, you know, now I know where to look, I cannot see with the naked eye the copy mark! I do of course see it on inspection of the digital photos I took. The large one however doesnt appear to have a copy mark but does have a word starting with BOP-? possibly? at 4 oclock. I suppose the coins are not worth much, but its food for thought for all you collectors, as I say unless seen with a VERY good magnifying glass or a blown up digital image you cant tell.

thanks for your interest and time guys!

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Pictures of the coins now uploaded, I am looking for a value on these from you experts please :) and any interest as I am not a collector myself.

Thank You

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/723/s7303528.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4601/s7303529m.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6563/s7303530.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8396/s7303531.jpg

Peanuts.

The first has COPY on the obverse which is a bit of a giveaway. The second has little pits all over the surface which is indicative of a cast and it also has COPY inside the inner circle on the reverse at 4 o'clock.

Well spotted. I was looking for wrl or the small cloverlike mark and didn't see the 'copy' word. Duuuh!!

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I was about to point out they were stamped COPY but you guys beat me

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to it :P

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