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On 6/22/2022 at 9:44 AM, Rob said:

It's a grey area. If you are willing to bid up to XXXX, then you cannot complain if it costs you that amount. It's the circumstantial evidence of never winning anything at a figure below my max that irks, especially when everyone else tells the same story. It raises suspicion but isn't in itself proof of wrongdoing. The solution is to get someone to bid in the room if you have someone willing to act as your agent, but not many people have this facility available.

I know I'm going back on the thread, but I'm still thinking about this.

Calling the problem behaviour 'sharp practice' is simply rolling over and accepting that you are being ripped off.

It's just as 'sharp practice' as being mugged on the street.....

 

If you use an auction company a lot, and you always win with your highest bid, why not leave bids as usual,

but ask the auction office manager what odds they will give you on all your bids winning at the maximum?

I wonder what amounts would then be the winners???

There must be a way of setting up a sting to catch suspect auction houses out.....

....there must be......

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11 hours ago, ozjohn said:

Very nice .I wish I had the confidence to collect hammered silver and siege pieces. That's why I stick to modern coins as I think I can spot most forgeries with modern coins but hammered silver is a different ball game.

With me it's not confidence - I just don't like hammered (defining hammered as 1066 -> milled)

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12 hours ago, Coinery said:

That’s spectacular, Sir! 

Thanks Stu - do you remenber that 'research' Newark piece you sold me a few years back?

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Did I see that for sale in york? Thought I did anyway

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34 minutes ago, copper123 said:

Did I see that for sale in york? Thought I did anyway

If Lloyd Bennett was there, then very likely, yes

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It was amongst a load of lovely coins all with no price tags - I suspect you are expected to haggle

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HOW TO HAGGLE
        (Burt appears.  He is very big.)
Burt:   Yeah?
Harry:  This bloke won't haggle.
Burt:   (looking around) Where are the guards?
Brian:  Oh, all right ...  I mean do we have to ...
Harry:  Now I want twenty for that ...
Brian:  I gave you twenty.
Harry:  Now are you telling me that's not worth twenty shekels?
Brian:  No.
Harry:  Feel the quality, that's none of yer goat.
Brian:  Oh ...  I'll give you nineteen then.
Harry:  No, no.  Do it properly.
Brian:  What?
Harry:  Haggle properly.  This isn't worth nineteen.
Brian:  You just said it was worth twenty.
Harry:  Burt!!
Brian:  I'll give you ten.
Harry:  That's more like it.
        (outraged) Ten!?  Are you trying to insult me?  Me?  With a poor dying
        grandmother...Ten!?!
Brian:  Eleven.
Harry:  Now you're getting it.  Eleven!?!  Did I hear you right?  Eleven?  This
        cost me twelve.  You want to ruin me?
Brian:  Seventeen.
Harry:  Seventeen!
Brian:  Eighteen?
Harry:  No, no, no.  You go to fourteen now.
Brian:  Fourteen.
Harry:  Fourteen, are you joking?
Brian:  That's what you told me to say.
        (Harry registers total despair.)
        Tell me what to say.  Please.
Harry:  Offer me fourteen.
Brian:  I'll give you fourteen.
Harry:  (to onlookers) He's offering me fourteen for this!
Brian:  Fifteen.
Harry:  Seventeen.  My last word.  I won't take a penny less, or strike me
        dead.
Brian:  Sixteen.
Harry:  Done.  (He grasps Brian's hand and shakes it.)  Nice to do business
        with you.  Tell you what, I'll throw in this as well.  (He gives
        Brian a gourd.)
Brian:  I don't want it, but thanks.
Harry:  Burt!
Burt:   (reappearing rapidly) Yes?
Brian:  All right!  All right!!  Thank you.
Harry:  Where's the sixteen then?
Brian:  I already gave you twenty.
Harry:  Oh yes ...  that's four I owe you then.  (starts looking for change)
Brian:  It's all right, it doesn't matter.
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Certainly not as rare or exciting as Pauls coin but here are a few I picked up last year but only just got around to photographing.

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Very nice there Sir. I started collecting the YH half sovs some 15 or so years ago and it is a bear to get a decent one these days & more or less given up. The early 1840s dates are rather difficult and this is better than mine (AU58). IMHO mint state currency examples are much scarcer than the proof 1839 1/2 sovs....

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On 4/25/2022 at 10:10 AM, azda said:

Bought a bit of bullion

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Got this back from grading, MS66. Top tier.

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5 minutes ago, VickySilver said:

Very nice there Sir. I started collecting the YH half sovs some 15 or so years ago and it is a bear to get a decent one these days & more or less given up. The early 1840s dates are rather difficult and this is better than mine (AU58). IMHO mint state currency examples are much scarcer than the proof 1839 1/2 sovs....

I agree, finding these now in good grades are getting difficult and expensive, but its a marathon and not a sprint, we keep plugging away. This is MS64, one in MS66 but I know that one is in a long term collection. This is the 66 in question

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That 66 might set the buyer back above 2k pounds!!

My prize is an 1841 in MS65

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1 hour ago, VickySilver said:

That 66 might set the buyer back above 2k pounds!!

My prize is an 1841 in MS65

Judging by some of the higher end realised prices I would say maybe more £3k plus these days

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10 hours ago, azda said:

Got this back from grading, MS66. Top tier.

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Wish I'd bought a few back in the late 90s when the price of bullion sovs was £55. :(

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2 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

Wish I'd bought a few back in the late 90s when the price of bullion sovs was £55. :(

You’re not the only one, these Gillicks in higher end grades are fetching some serious money just now. A 1957 has sold for £1900 and there’s one in higher grade than 66

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Not sure I'd pop for 1900 on such a coin but have always loved the simple elegance of the Gillick sovereign and of course have an unslabbed of my birthdate.

Nice coin there Peck.

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29 minutes ago, VickySilver said:

Not sure I'd pop for 1900 on such a coin but have always loved the simple elegance of the Gillick sovereign and of course have an unslabbed of my birthdate.

Nice coin there Peck.

Still need to find a decent one of my birth year.

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a coin i have been after for a long while Richard I denier.. not sure of the mint

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Thought it might be worth sharing this new acquisition here for reference, or to see if anyone disagrees about the mark being S, which is quite a find...

Harrington Type 1a Farthing. Everson 7. Mint mark S. Quite a lot of original tinning remaining. 

According to Everson, S is known only from 1 pair of dies, where the fret is double-entered. This then a new die pairing for the mark. 

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On 8/5/2022 at 7:58 AM, Peckris 2 said:

Wish I'd bought a few back in the late 90s when the price of bullion sovs was £55. :(

I can remember buying a sovereign back in the late 60's for GBP 8.00  That was in the days when you were not supposed to have sovereigns.

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