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[HistoricCoinage 115]

Such a dishonest seller. I bought the original fake and attempted to educate him. He promised he'd not sell it as genuine but...

Here's the original listing and here's the second chance. Nice feedback, too.

[Rob 3,002]

Such a dishonest seller. I bought the original fake and attempted to educate him. He promised he'd not sell it as genuine but...

Here's the original listing and here's the second chance. Nice feedback, too.

Interesting that he found it in with some clocks.

[Coinery 926]

Really sad, that! Reminds me of me some years ago, feeling my way through it all!

[HistoricCoinage 115]

Really sad, that! Reminds me of me some years ago, feeling my way through it all!

I've spoken directly with eBay CS about this rather than just filing a report. I hope they get in touch with the 'winning' bidder but doubt it somehow.

[azda 973]

Ebay are a waste of your time and effort Clive, theyonly want the money, its more than evident with the amount of things that go by after being reported

[HistoricCoinage 115]

Ebay are a waste of your time and effort Clive, theyonly want the money, its more than evident with the amount of things that go by after being reported

That may be true, but where else can you pick up a class 1a penny of Edward I for less than £70?

[Rob 3,002]

I'm still intrigued as to the identity of the original producer of the casts. I have the F3/1 shilling which I bought in Nov. 2004 and I know who has the Newcastle 9b 1d original, which he bought in 2005(?). Anyone know the whereabouts of any other originals and purchase details?

[Coinery 926]

I'm still intrigued as to the identity of the original producer of the casts. I have the F3/1 shilling which I bought in Nov. 2004 and I know who has the Newcastle 9b 1d original, which he bought in 2005(?). Anyone know the whereabouts of any other originals and purchase details?

As I mentioned before, I'm pretty certain I stupidly handed back to w&w the original of an E1 groat we frequently see copied...with broken crown?

Also, that recent CGS slabbed coin that TG posted up (Christ, can't remember what of, now), can only be a major CGS cock-up, or the original from which the fakes were made?

Wonder if they all have a common source?

[azda 973]

It was a Henry VIII groat, the CGS one i'm sure was kosha, the other 3 had too much similarity and a nick in the same place on all three

Edited June 22, 2014 by azda

[Coinery 926]

It was a Henry VIII groat

Yes, that was it, the 1st coinage h8!

[Coinery 926]

It was a Henry VIII groat, the CGS one i'm sure was kosha, the other 3 had too much similarity and a nick in the same place on all three

If that coin is genuine, though, there's no doubting that all the copies are cast siblings of it.

[Rob 3,002]

I'm still intrigued as to the identity of the original producer of the casts. I have the F3/1 shilling which I bought in Nov. 2004 and I know who has the Newcastle 9b 1d original, which he bought in 2005(?). Anyone know the whereabouts of any other originals and purchase details?

As I mentioned before, I'm pretty certain I stupidly handed back to w&w the original of an E1 groat we frequently see copied...with broken crown?

Also, that recent CGS slabbed coin that TG posted up (Christ, can't remember what of, now), can only be a major CGS cock-up, or the original from which the fakes were made?

Wonder if they all have a common source?

I'm certain they do.

[HistoricCoinage 115]

Seller's got back to me after I left him a negative and says he's asked "3 other peoples who have great knowledge in coinage" and "How have I treated anyone unfairly I treated you in a positive manner?"

The coin is only two thirds of what it should weigh and I've found identical fakes on the Forgery Network... I answered the last question with mention of shilling, fraud, trade description, etc.

[Coinery 926]

Seller's got back to me after I left him a negative and says he's asked "3 other peoples who have great knowledge in coinage" and "How have I treated anyone unfairly I treated you in a positive manner?"

The coin is only two thirds of what it should weigh and I've found identical fakes on the Forgery Network... I answered the last question with mention of shilling, fraud, trade description, etc.

Be interested to know who the 3 knowledgable experts are, just so I can avoid any of their expertise in the future? If only you could email the buyer, as in the good ole days! Edited June 22, 2014 by Coinery

[Rob 3,002]

Seller's got back to me after I left him a negative and says he's asked "3 other peoples who have great knowledge in coinage" and "How have I treated anyone unfairly I treated you in a positive manner?"

The coin is only two thirds of what it should weigh and I've found identical fakes on the Forgery Network... I answered the last question with mention of shilling, fraud, trade description, etc.

Be interested to know who the 3 knowledgable experts were, just so I can avoid any of their expertise in the future? If only you could email the buyer, as in the good ole days!

They were good days. 8 or 9 years ago I gave a heads up to someone that the Pontefract they were bidding on was plugged based on a misdescribed catalogue entry of a lot that went unsold at 1300 estimate when it would otherwise have made very good money. Very well done, but still plugged. You don't want to be spending upwards of £2K on what was a 3500 coin at the time only to find out that you'd bought a pup. Needless to say, he retracted the bid and the seller claimed ignorance. Yeh, right. Might have believed him if he wasn't in the habit of selling mostly top end coins.

[HistoricCoinage 115]

Be interested to know who the 3 knowledgable experts are, just so I can avoid any of their expertise in the future? If only you could email the buyer, as in the good ole days!

As would I!

Also, I've been told "Its not fair to get involved in other peoples livelihoods" -- wondering what this livelihood is. Selling fakes...?

[HistoricCoinage 115]

Be interested to know who the 3 knowledgable experts are, just so I can avoid any of their expertise in the future? If only you could email the buyer, as in the good ole days!

I asked.

I emailed several coin experts which I found on the internet. A few got back to me and confirmed the type of coin and the value... I wouldn't ever meaningfully sell anyone anything that's not genuine and that's why I'm upset at the feedback left as it goes against everything I'm about I pride myself in been honest and a genuine person.

Hmm. Proved to him it's a fake and he still second chanced it to another bidder.

[Coinery 926]

Be interested to know who the 3 knowledgable experts are, just so I can avoid any of their expertise in the future? If only you could email the buyer, as in the good ole days!

I asked.

I emailed several coin experts which I found on the internet. A few got back to me and confirmed the type of coin and the value... I wouldn't ever meaningfully sell anyone anything that's not genuine and that's why I'm upset at the feedback left as it goes against everything I'm about I pride myself in been honest and a genuine person.

Hmm. Proved to him it's a fake and he still second chanced it to another bidder.

Deserved the feedback, in my opinion, point him to my old thread a couple of years ago, that shows exactly the same coin (with plug), and the discussion about it being fake...hasn't a leg to stand on!

[scott 129]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Henry-VII-Groat-Silver-Hammered-/281370851871?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 erm

[Peter 615]

You have to laugh.

The seller is a spunkster Royal.

[HistoricCoinage 115]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Henry-VII-Groat-Silver-Hammered-/281370851871?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 erm

Looks like one of Dave's.

[Coinery 926]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Henry-VII-Groat-Silver-Hammered-/281370851871?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 erm

Cracks me up!

[Coinery 926]

I did rather fancy this E1 ?Threepence? 390869594692

[Paulus 1,942]

I did rather fancy this E1 ?Threepence? 390869594692

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Edited June 26, 2014 by Paulus

[Coinery 926]

Thank-you, Sir!

Edited June 26, 2014 by Coinery