Ebay's Worst Offerings

[declan03 149]

Reported this one.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1872-GOTHIC-FLORIN-SILVER-VICTORIAN-FLORIN-VERY-HIGH-QUALITY/253455715286?hash=item3b03234bd6:g:G6kAAOSwkkNalXeo

[markflorida 28]

On 01/03/2018 at 6:58 PM, Paddy said:

Yes - I am happy to join in reporting them, but I need to be confident they are fake for my own peace of mind. What are the tell-tales on these ones? Is it just because he has obscured the NGC references?

 

It is not just the ref numbers, look at the up close, they are fake.

[markflorida 28]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-S-PCGS-XF40-one-silver-dollar/112853078913?hash=item1a46915381:g:XdUAAOSwa-VansZj

 

New Fake coin listed today. The cert number is for a Chinese coin, the coin actually looks like a polished coin and would never get graded like this. Sadly because it is a key date someone will bid on it and get ripped off. 

[markflorida 28]

Todays latest fake graded coin https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1889-CC-PCGS-VF25-one-silver-dollar/263537115257?hash=item3d5c094079:g:kCIAAOSwUoxaoATU

 

 

[Paddy 1,543]

22 minutes ago, markflorida said:

Todays latest fake graded coin https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1889-CC-PCGS-VF25-one-silver-dollar/263537115257?hash=item3d5c094079:g:kCIAAOSwUoxaoATU

 

 

It looks ugly and a brand new seller makes one very dubious, but the PCGS cert matches a similarly described coin (though no picture). What makes you certain it is fake? I am happy, as always, to report but I need to be sure in my own mind it is a fake before I stir up trouble for the seller.

[markflorida 28]

14 minutes ago, Paddy said:

It looks ugly and a brand new seller makes one very dubious, but the PCGS cert matches a similarly described coin (though no picture). What makes you certain it is fake? I am happy, as always, to report but I need to be sure in my own mind it is a fake before I stir up trouble for the seller.

Hi Paddy. Yes sir, the cert number matches.

1st Red flag it is a Key date

                                                                                        Genuine

2nd, A newbie seller with a key date

3rd, The coin is too clean. It has most certainly been cleaned and would only be graded as Genuine or VF details cleaned.

4th, The date numbers are too small and wide. 

5th, It would be AU50 at worst, so its down graded so the unsuspecting buyer thinks he is getting a good deal.

6th, The obverse label is too small for the holder and is not stuck down.

The image here is a Genuine VF25 Morgan and graded as such, the eBay listing is a better grade and clearly cleaned. 

This is more than enough red flags.  I hope this helps Paddy

Fake piece of animal waste on eBay for sale

Edited March 8, 2018 by markflorida

[Paddy 1,543]

1 minute ago, markflorida said:

Hi Paddy. Yes sir, the cert number matches.

1st Red flag it is a Key date

2nd, A newbie seller with a key date

3rd, The coin is too clean. It has most certainly been cleaned and would only be graded as Genuine or VF details cleaned.

4th, The date numbers are too small and wide. 

5th, It would be AU50 at worst, so its down graded so the unsuspecting buyer thinks he is getting a good deal.

6th, The obverse label is too small for the holder and is not stuck down.

The image here is a Genuine VF25 Morgan and graded as such, the eBay listing is a better grade and clearly cleaned. 

This is more than enough red flags.  I hope this helps Paddy

Great - thanks for the clarification, I will now report.

[markflorida 28]

You are welcome. I wish people would do research before they buy, why would you buy a coin on eBay with low feedback or in the case zero feedback. Their is enough big sellers on eBay with feedback in the tens of thousands selling coins who are respectable.

[PWA 1967 1,841]

56 minutes ago, markflorida said:

You are welcome. I wish people would do research before they buy, why would you buy a coin on eBay with low feedback or in the case zero feedback. Their is enough big sellers on eBay with feedback in the tens of thousands selling coins who are respectable.

Mainly i feel because ebay is such a huge coin market  people are looking for something for nothing and think everything is cheap.The coins you mentioned the average person (inc.me ) would not have a clue about and will just buy it for £+++ think they have got a bargain ,put it away and look for another coin thats cheap.

Sad and pisses me off , if you look at anything on ebay not just coins its full of sellers trying to have people over 

Well spotted though and thanks for posting them.

Although not my thing you have some lovely coins for sale on eBay......Your obviously one of the decent sellers so HAT OFF to you 

Pete.

[PWA 1967 1,841]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNCIRCULATED-GEORGIVS-V-1933-ONE-PENNY-COIN/292475220412?hash=item4418e1b1bc:g:H14AAOSwaVRaoIGR

As i was saying above the place is full of RANG.

[zookeeperz 470]

39 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNCIRCULATED-GEORGIVS-V-1933-ONE-PENNY-COIN/292475220412?hash=item4418e1b1bc:g:H14AAOSwaVRaoIGR

As i was saying above the place is full of RANG.

That is so funny he doesn't even know what his label stands for. PCCB professional coin supplies and professional coin display  None really convincing wonder if the B stands for BS

 

[markflorida 28]

44 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNCIRCULATED-GEORGIVS-V-1933-ONE-PENNY-COIN/292475220412?hash=item4418e1b1bc:g:H14AAOSwaVRaoIGR

As i was saying above the place is full of RANG.

Good spot. Thank you for posting

[mrbadexample 985]

220 years old. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-Cart-wheel-Penny-Coin-Antique-Old-Copper-King-George-III-Royal-Mint-London/312080411819?hash=item48a9712cab:g:NgoAAOSweRhanEmO

[Peckris 579]

34 minutes ago, mrbadexample said:

220 years old. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-Cart-wheel-Penny-Coin-Antique-Old-Copper-King-George-III-Royal-Mint-London/312080411819?hash=item48a9712cab:g:NgoAAOSweRhanEmO

Reported 

[Paddy 1,543]

Ditto

[declan03 149]

Certainly not silver.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-sterling-silver-crown-from-1887/202246121405?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

[hibernianscribe 159]

13 hours ago, Peckris said:

Reported 

Me too!

[hibernianscribe 159]

I noticed this one this morning:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253476938178?ul_noapp=true

I believe a 'not encapsulated' category means for various reasons it is not eligible for grading.

The reference number however, does tally with a clipped Richard III groat, but no mention of not being encapsulated.

Frank

[zookeeperz 470]

17 hours ago, mrbadexample said:

220 years old. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-Cart-wheel-Penny-Coin-Antique-Old-Copper-King-George-III-Royal-Mint-London/312080411819?hash=item48a9712cab:g:NgoAAOSweRhanEmO

15956* 99% rating. Are we not safe anywhere now or is this a case of seller ignorance?

[mrbadexample 985]

14 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

15956* 99% rating. Are we not safe anywhere now or is this a case of seller ignorance?

It's probably not ignorance, since I told them. 

[davidrj 194]

I know Victoria had lots of kids, But .........

[declan03 149]

What would cause this wavey effect on a threepence? 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1868-silver-threepence-3d-of-Victoria-in-stunning-condition/202242874987?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D2ac97ac6f3c14d8593b40755e64cdbb0%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D202242874987%26itm%3D202242874987&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

[Paddy 1,543]

Looks to me like a double strike rotated, if that is possible? The band in the wavy area just below the R of Brittannia looks like the rearward headband on Victoria's head?

[Rob 3,002]

23 minutes ago, declan03 said:

What would cause this wavey effect on a threepence? 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1868-silver-threepence-3d-of-Victoria-in-stunning-condition/202242874987?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D2ac97ac6f3c14d8593b40755e64cdbb0%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D202242874987%26itm%3D202242874987&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

Die clash. The first picture shows the outline of the crown best, with the tie knot and immediate area seen above the head.

[declan03 149]

Cheers guys. Never seen this before.