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the reverses Both the lettering and some of the design is different on the large letter type and in the small letter type this one has an F double struck then moved 

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reverse difference 

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Where do you find most of your model coins drlarry?

Most of mine come from either birmingham or by searching "toy coins "  on ebay  must admit I dont add many to my collection now just the odd buy   , I love bulk collections  and the odd pickup  is nice but probably around three time a year now.

Searching "model coins" does get more views and thus higher prices , so i dont bother as much.

Unfortunately buying this way you get lots of doubles , I usually bag them up and put them on the bay  as a bulk lot

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Here's a rarity you will not find many of these around its a half farthing 1849

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Not rare but a nice original set

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2 hours ago, copper123 said:

Where do you find most of your model coins drlarry?

Most of mine come from either birmingham or by searching "toy coins "  on ebay  must admit I dont add many to my collection now just the odd buy   , I love bulk collections  and the odd pickup  is nice but probably around three time a year now.

Searching "model coins" does get more views and thus higher prices , so i dont bother as much.

Unfortunately buying this way you get lots of doubles , I usually bag them up and put them on the bay  as a bulk lot

I have collected them all off ebay over the last 5 years.  I have not bought many the last year I wouldn't know where to begin outside ebay. I have several hundred now.  It's been one of the most interesting things I've collected since I started collecting 7 years ago.  I sometimes find small hoards with 40 or 50 of the same type which has made wonder if they were distributed in a number of different ways.  My sets come mostly the US. I think I'm almost done collecting now though . 

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I always thought the usa coins were really dear  it always frustrates me that these lovely coins have so few fans probably less than 40 serious collectors such a shame

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35 minutes ago, copper123 said:

I always thought the usa coins were really dear  it always frustrates me that these lovely coins have so few fans probably less than 40 serious collectors such a shame

yes they are very rare .  I have quite a few doubles though.  I have paid upto about £30 each for them I have only just received the last set my only real interest in buying more than one is often in search of new varieties.  Some like the Flying Eagle I think there might be only about 15 known.  But listen I have 4 I really don't need them all. I only bought them over from the US because I thought there were not many over in Europe.   Frustrates me a little too hence starting this thread I thought it might get a few people interested. 

A couple of years ago I found a small hoard of an unlisted type of Alfonso the XIII baby heads 25 pts usually what I do is donate them to the charity and sell them for them.  I sold 20 of them at about £25 each simply because Pay Pal were doing a fantastic almost unbelievable offer to the charity of multiplying anything I sold times 5  in the end I managed to raise nearly £30,000 , £25,000 given by ebay and Paypal.  I am always happy to sell them to other collectors for the charity.  As long as I have a set I am happy. Let me know I am not too interested in making profit on them 

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4 hours ago, copper123 said:

Here's a rarity you will not find many of these around its a half farthing 1849

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are those R's instead of E's ?  I am trying to think where I have placed my model coins....  my gothic copper ones as above are both 1848 I had not realised there was an 1849 

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4 hours ago, copper123 said:

Where do you find most of your model coins drlarry?

Most of mine come from either birmingham or by searching "toy coins "  on ebay  must admit I dont add many to my collection now just the odd buy   , I love bulk collections  and the odd pickup  is nice but probably around three time a year now.

Searching "model coins" does get more views and thus higher prices , so i dont bother as much.

Unfortunately buying this way you get lots of doubles , I usually bag them up and put them on the bay  as a bulk lot

I have wondered why people that like miniature dolls house stuff dont collect them, I think they have played quite an important role teaching children (girls) house keeping in Victorian times. 

Something wonderful happened the other day I received a very nice George III two pence (silvered) when it arrived I noticed it very light , eventually I realised I had an apprentice piece...the bizarre thing inside was a small packet containing a whole set of the Royal Family tokens from the windsor Castle boxes.  The irony is I have always wanted a smuggler coin.  I think it only cost me $40 

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I have not found any variation in the shilling cf. Rogers but only having 3 it is difficult to say if this is just a numbers game.  I had intended not to take photos ut I think I will just to have better images  for others to compare  I should go back and do the same for the Crown, half crown.  

 

The Crown This type seems not to be listed in Rogers the truncation points to the first V of the W not the centre .  So there must be at least 4 varieties. as the other either point centre of the W ~ 775; #776;#777 points to the D 

 

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The Half Crown Looking at these two I can see they are different there are design elements in different places.  Clearly the first is very different the back of the head is placed with the truncation to the D and the others the W.  The lettering is also larger this must be Rogers #780

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Half Crown #4  

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11 hours ago, DrLarry said:

are those R's instead of E's ?  I am trying to think where I have placed my model coins....  my gothic copper ones as above are both 1848 I had not realised there was an 1849 

Is it in rogers the 1849 I mean? I saw one listed in the seventies in a farthing specialist list so theres more than one hanging around

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31 minutes ago, copper123 said:

Is it in rogers the 1849 I mean? I saw one listed in the seventies in a farthing specialist list so theres more than one hanging around

I will take a look for you.  Yes it is in no image #243 but he did not have one he just says it is reported but he had not seen one. 

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The Shilling, Rogers # 787  points to the last V of the W and # 788 points to the D.  My notes in the book suggest one of these might be a 3rd type which points to the first V of the W

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sixpence there are three types listed but for some reason I think there are four as mentioned by Rogers 

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The three pence also is a little complicated it may be that some of these are Rogers #822 large crown but the bust is not really that hairy but cannot be assigned to any other maker type 

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three pence the first has the nose pointing towards the M nd has a beaded border cf. the toothed border on the others 

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The Penny this one appears to be a new variety not listed .  It is iron with a smaller Britannia and the portrait is different with the truncation pointing to the to the D  Rogers # 800 and 801 one of the copper and one iron have the truncation pointing to the centre of the W in the copper and to the last V of the W in the iron version 

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This is a new variety of the HALF PENNY  made of iron coated with copper  as opposed the one listed  Rogers # 805 made of Brass 

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This also appears to be a new variety made of Brass rather than iron coated copper Rogers #810 and #811  sorry I had not noticed I had a farthing 

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On 11/25/2022 at 8:16 PM, copper123 said:

A rarer second issue of Edward VII with the "Hairy head" and more realistic likeness nice grade too.

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I found I had a farthing but it is different made of brass I assume yours is the iron covered by copper version although yours seems to point to the middle of the W in which case yours is also a new variety  #810 truncation to D and ~ 811 truncation to the second V of W

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On 11/25/2022 at 8:25 PM, copper123 said:

A full set of these would be very expensive they just seem to be found as singles I am sure they were not issued in great quantities.

Might be interesting to know if the farthing also appears as a dated version Rev rogers book anyone?

that just about does it for my Hairies .  It seems clear that there four varieties of each so some are yet to be discovered.  they are either different designs , different metals, or different legend types.  Thanks for bringing them up 

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On 11/25/2022 at 8:25 PM, copper123 said:

 your scent box 

I have a recollection of having one of the mini scent boxes but they are so small they may have got mixed up or stored in a place where they shouldn't be 

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