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I forgot that this was coming up today  in Nantwich. Hammered at £75 including fees. Which was fortunate because I was so taken with the reverse that I'd overlooked a fairly scratched up obverse. It would still have been a vast improvement on my current example, but I can wait.

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Yes - I was watching that one as well. I decided I didn't need it quite that much at £75 + commission + postage.

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Nantwich auction on Easylive. Not a regular coin specialist and new to Easylive, so untested. I bid on a number of items but only won two - neither in the pre-decimal interest area.

 

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12 hours ago, bagerap said:

I forgot that this was coming up today  in Nantwich. Hammered at £75 including fees. Which was fortunate because I was so taken with the reverse that I'd overlooked a fairly scratched up obverse. It would still have been a vast improvement on my current example, but I can wait.

It's nice, but I think there is a bit of rub especially on the observe, in addition to the marks. The observe toning is a bit streaky too. I think you will get a nicer example if you wait a bit.

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1923 is the easiest date in that series.

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May I enter the fray as the loyal opposition?

This coin has a very good strike both obverse and reverse. The rims show some sign of "bag handling" as do a few of the marks on the obverse - however, some of the apparent marks on the obverse are not. What do I mean? 

Look at the lines in and around the "V" in George's title; these look to be die scratches. There are some marks in the field to the left of George, but not severe. The only area that concerns me on the obverse is the field between George's bust and the "E" in the legend portion of "REX". G's cheek, nose, brow and beard excellent. IMO the area superior-most on his ear is simply not struck up all the way. Reverse as expected rather nice...

 

Do post your pieces of 1923 superior to this at 75 quid. I will try to do so later.

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Thanks Eric. Your comments are always interesting and instructive. 

18 minutes ago, VickySilver said:

IMO the area superior-most on his ear is simply not struck up all the way. 

How can you tell? Is it because there is no sign of wear on the cheek and brow? (I thought there might be slight discolouration in that area and hence suggested a trace of rub). 

I do like the fine hair details of the shallow cut portrait. 

 

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Partially yes. The other mentioned locations mitigate against that, but also areas not fully struck up have different crystalline structure I am told and oxidize variably which can give a different appearance to the surrounding metal. Interestingly it also appears that planchets were not prepared very well and frequently were rather marked by scratches, poor finish even, and so when an area is not fully struck up, pre-strike planchet issues will remain and sometimes appear as "wear" to the coin when it appears it may not always be.

An area famous for that is on the obverse cheek of George on your nomen Wreath. It took a long time to figure this out as marks here can be pre or post strike (or combos of the two). The ear on the OP coin fortunately does show this malady however, and I mentioned as a worse case scenario - I wonder what other series are affected in this manner as I have not seen a lot of discussion about this. I have a decent collection of pattern "MODEL" coins of the 20th century that demonstrate some of these planchet issues even on coins of specimen finish, and possibly could publish if I had more time.....

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Here is mine:

 

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I picked up this one 3 years ago.

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Nice coins in all of the pictures here. Just a quick observation, the top left lion is not as good as the others on all of those coins. Has anybody got a 1923 halfcrown where it is struck up properly? It seems like there might have been a striking issue.

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22 hours ago, VickySilver said:

Look at the lines in and around the "V" in George's title; these look to be die scratches. There are some marks in the field to the left of George, but not severe. The only area that concerns me on the obverse is the field between George's bust and the "E" in the legend portion of "REX". G's cheek, nose, brow and beard excellent. IMO the area superior-most on his ear is simply not struck up all the way. Reverse as expected rather nice...

Forgive me if I state something in the "bleedin' obvious" category: if they are die scratches then surely the resulting flaws would be raised not incuse?

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25 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

Forgive me if I state something in the "bleedin' obvious" category: if they are die scratches then surely the resulting flaws would be raised not incuse?

The ones leading upwards from the bottom of the I and S of GEORGIUS look as though they might be raised, to me.

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Indeed, and my point is they ARE.  Please note how the defect disappears into the lettering in the areas indicated and not THROUGH the lettering. If need be, then the specifics are within the valley of the "V" and and that on either side of the "V" truncation, more could be pointed out....

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