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3 minutes ago, UPINSMOKE said:

Thank you I thought it would be a bit different from the normal ones around and a bit of fun. Will have to change it from time to time, just to keep you on your toes.

As they say "Hare today, gone tomorrow".

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Ok don't keep Rabbiting on about it then😁

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Another for the collection. 1907 "Crockers Drapery Exhibition" seen better days but hey ho they are not easy to find 😃

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This is my 1 and only encased farthing

1907 Advertising farthing 1873
The Hutchinson Brothers 'Universal' stores' were a very well known company in 1906 
They operated 3 Auckland stores one at the corner of Custom St West / Queen street and the others at Ponsonby and Newmarket.
They were Grocers and General supply sellers.

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What a nice example of one I do not have, very envious 😍😍 Thanks for sharing this with us.

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Just added this one to the collection. Nothing spectacular but does have some interesting doubling on the letters on the surround. I am interested to know how this has come about, see pictures. How does this occur? Any explanation or theory on how this may have been struck etc, please.  There must be someone out there that can explain it to me.

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Really interesting topic.

How were these produced Mick? I have seen something similar in a fairground, where the punter stamps their own in a machine. But were the examples you show produced like that, or were they handed to customers, maybe with or without a coin inside them.  

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3 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Really interesting topic.

How were these produced Mick? I have seen something similar in a fairground, where the punter stamps their own in a machine. But were the examples you show produced like that, or were they handed to customers, maybe with or without a coin inside them.  

Hi Mike as far as I am aware the coins were pressed into the aluminum surround during manufacture. Although I don't have any firm proof of this. The majority of encased farthings in the UK were produced by J R Gaunt you can tell this by the initials of JRG on the surrounds although some were produced by other manufacturers some of which I have yet to establish so most are unknown.

They were made as advertising pieces for the different retailers so would assume they were given out to customers as lucky coin gifts. The most common being Hooper Struve and Chelsea Hotel Jersey these come up quite often. I find them an interesting sideline to my other collections. Recently though I seem to be spending more time researching these and hunting them down. It's very rewarding when I do manage to track one down I haven't found yet. I just wish there were other collectors out there that I could chat to and swap information, it seems there is only a handful of us collecting these.

Below is an example I have been after for a while it's from my home Town where I used to live as a teenager and into my early 20s the pub advertised I have actually visited. It's now closed down and is a private house now.

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7 hours ago, UPINSMOKE said:

Hi Mike as far as I am aware the coins were pressed into the aluminum surround during manufacture. Although I don't have any firm proof of this. The majority of encased farthings in the UK were produced by J R Gaunt you can tell this by the initials of JRG on the surrounds although some were produced by other manufacturers some of which I have yet to establish so most are unknown.

They were made as advertising pieces for the different retailers so would assume they were given out to customers as lucky coin gifts. The most common being Hooper Struve and Chelsea Hotel Jersey these come up quite often. I find them an interesting sideline to my other collections. Recently though I seem to be spending more time researching these and hunting them down. It's very rewarding when I do manage to track one down I haven't found yet. I just wish there were other collectors out there that I could chat to and swap information, it seems there is only a handful of us collecting these.

Below is an example I have been after for a while it's from my home Town where I used to live as a teenager and into my early 20s the pub advertised I have actually visited. It's now closed down and is a private house now.

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"'ole in the wall" as a pub name - love it ! 

Thanks Mick.

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The coin is encased at the time they are produced,, there used to be an organisation called the Encased Collectors International who solely focused on encased cents. I spoke to them for a while and sent some modern coins and farthings off to be encased of which they returned me a few samples of each.

 

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9 hours ago, Colin G. said:

The coin is encased at the time they are produced,, there used to be an organisation called the Encased Collectors International who solely focused on encased cents. I spoke to them for a while and sent some modern coins and farthings off to be encased of which they returned me a few samples of each.

 

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Thanks, Colin for sharing these images really like both of them. You say you had a few examples of these. I don't suppose you would have a spare of the farthing one. I knew they existed, but as yet have not managed to acquire one for my collection. Or perhaps you know of someone that may have one available to purchase, please. 

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Encased US coin here if anyone interested 

 

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Another new addition to the collection.

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On 5/5/2019 at 2:38 PM, UPINSMOKE said:

Another new addition to the collection.

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My Local Club! It's lovely to see these getting around further than the members own collections!

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Just added my last Encased Farthing for 2019 a 1947 Bazooka bought from the USA. Look forward to what will turn up in 2020. I have now managed to collect 88 Encased Farthings some are duplicates of the same advertiser with different date farthings in the surround. Still interested in any that may turn up if any of the members of this forum come across any in their travels.

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My first Encased Farthing for 2020 very pleased with this one as they are not easy to find for this advertiser. Looking forward to hunting more out this year.😄

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I'm from Kidderminster, about 6 miles down the road from Stourbridge.

I lived in Stourbridge for a few years.

I've been watching this thread and it's ben entertaining and interesting.

Are the outside advertising rim added to the coin generally aluminium?

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1 hour ago, blakeyboy said:

I'm from Kidderminster, about 6 miles down the road from Stourbridge.

I lived in Stourbridge for a few years.

I've been watching this thread and it's ben entertaining and interesting.

Are the outside advertising rim added to the coin generally aluminium?

Hi blakeyboy glad you like the thread. Yes the majority of the Encased Farthings surrounds were made of aluminium, although there are a few that have been encased in other metals. Take a look at this https://encasedfarthings.com/encased-farthings-reference-section/encased-farthings-f-to-g/generic-round/ from my Encased Farthings Website. I do find these fascinating. Since starting to collect these back in 2017 I have managed to build a nice collection. I have found that there does not seem to be many serious collectors of the British Encased Farthings. I only know of five serious collectors. Three within the UK, one in the USA and one in Canada. There are hundreds that collect the Encased Cents within the USA. The british examples did not seem to take off as well as there US examples. There are only around 70 different advertisers know to exist, there maybe others that have not come to light yet. That's why I built My Encased Farthings Website as a Reference for any new collectors out there that maybe interested in collecting them. I will keep adding to this thread as and when I get others. Or you can just visit the website for more information on these.

 

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Another added to the collection a Hooper Struve's surround. Although the Hooper Struve's Encased Farthings are the most common ones you will find, and are always turning up quite regularly. Finding one with a 1894 Victorian Farthing is not as easy as say George V or George VI. Very pleased I have got this one, as it may be quite some time before another turns up. 

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Another added to the collection a Gregory & Roche Encased Farthing these are quite scarce so pleased I was able to find an example.

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Well i haven't posted much recently about my Encased Farthing Collection so thought I would share my latest acquisition with you. This particular example has been extremely difficult to acquire. This example I managed to buy from a dealer in the USA it's not the best example I have seen, as the obverse shows signs of rubbing to Edward VII head. At least I now have an example for the collection. It's also unusual in the fact that it is the only known example of the British Encased Farthings that has a milled edge, all the others are just plain.

I of course will still be looking for a better example if at all possible. So if you ever come across one please get in touch. 

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22 minutes ago, bagerap said:

Mike, this is a rarity but too rich for me. I thought that you may want to keep the images.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1931-Paris-Exposition-Coloniale-Souvenir-medal-T110/293581960715?hash=item445ad9360b:g:cksAAOSwuMVetqzq

 

The seller Paul is a nice chap, bought two rare unofficial farthing style pieces off him recently, fair price and no problems. 

These issues are pretty rare. There were a variety of dies used for the outside rings, have a look at this one for comparison: 

https://www.cgbfr.com/5-centimes-lindauer-petit-module-souvenir-de-lexposition-coloniale-1930-paris-f-122-13-var-ttb,fmd_492430,a.html

I'm sure CGB will have even more in their backstock if you ask them. 

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Fortunately for me, I stopped collecting encased coins some time ago. Problem with the French examples is that I do collect exhibition medals and coins.

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