Richard I Short Cross Penny confirmation

[Paddy 1,543]

Can someone please help me nail this one down? In Spink book this seems to match S1347 best, which makes it Richard I type 3, but the moneyer on the reverse I can read ...ILLELM ON N... which would seem to be Willelm in Northampton or Norwich - but that does not fit with a type 3 coin. 

Have I got it all wrong? :-)

 

[Ukstu 437]

Looks like a class 4a. Willelm on Noi probably. Either Northampton or Norwich mint. 

Edited January 18, 2018 by Ukstu

[Paddy 1,543]

3 hours ago, Ukstu said:

Looks like a class 4a. Willelm on Noi probably. Either Northampton or Norwich mint. 

Thanks for that and you are probably right. My concern was that the images for the type 4 obverse do not fit very well with this coin - particularly that the hand on the sceptre on my coin is much higher up. Is this discrepancy normal?

Thanks again

[Ukstu 437]

I based my classification on other features like the curls. Class 3 coins have pellets in the curls. This coin does not appear to have any pellets in the curls. Also the style of the V and S is characteristic of class 4a coins. Also the mint and moneyer confirms it as a 4a coin as that moneyer is only active at that mint from class 4a -4b. 

There is a Willelm on Nico active at Lincoln under Henry II in class 1b-1c but your coin does not have the characteristics of a coin of that class so it can be ruled out. 

Regards 

Stuart. 

[Paddy 1,543]

Thanks Stuart, that clinches it. Consider this query closed - only the "Crusader" coin to resolve now!

Thanks again.

[Ukstu 437]

Your Welcome. Glad to of helped. 

Regards 

Stuart.