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On 7/22/2022 at 8:09 PM, 1949threepence said:

Thanks Ian - I'll send it by next day tracked delivery tomorrow. Although it'll be next day but one, as the actual next day is Sunday. 

I've now had a chance to examine Mike's 1841 REG Colon and compare to my own. These are both coins with the flaws through the numeral 8, and VICTORIA legend.

I attach full date pictures of both coins at 50x Mag.

On the post which will immediately follow (due to image size restrictions) I will also attach close ups of the 18’s on both coins, now at 140x Mag.

On the latter images  I have also measured the distance from the left hand side of the first 1 to the left hand side of the numeral 8 (i.e. to allow for numeral flattening through wear).

I conclude that both coins, as anticipated, seem to be identically spaced.

I think that a couple of things have understandably tricked the eye, giving Mike the false impression that his coin may have been a new 1841 REG: Date Style.  

a) the top, and top right hand side of the numeral 1 on Mike's coin is a little damaged / and further flattened towards the numeral 8, and

b) to the naked eye, the darker grime around both numerals gives the impression of them being closer.

I have already communicated this with Mike, attaching the same pictures.

Two 1841 REG Colons Full Dates.jpg

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12 minutes ago, alfnail said:

I've now had a chance to examine Mike's 1841 REG Colon and compare to my own. These are both coins with the flaws through the numeral 8, and VICTORIA legend.

I attach full date pictures of both coins at 50x Mag.

On the post which will immediately follow (due to image size restrictions) I will also attach close ups of the 18’s on both coins, now at 140x Mag.

On the latter images  I have also measured the distance from the left hand side of the first 1 to the left hand side of the numeral 8 (i.e. to allow for numeral flattening through wear).

I conclude that both coins, as anticipated, seem to be identically spaced.

I think that a couple of things have understandably tricked the eye, giving Mike the false impression that his coin may have been a new 1841 REG: Date Style.  

a) the top, and top right hand side of the numeral 1 on Mike's coin is a little damaged / and further flattened towards the numeral 8, and

b) to the naked eye, the darker grime around both numerals gives the impression of them being closer.

I have already communicated this with Mike, attaching the same pictures.

 

Ian, once again, thanks very much for having a close up look for me. Much appreciated.

I thought it was probably an optical illusion, and looking at the detailed close up pics you kindly provide, it very obviously is. But it's always worth checking out, just in case.

The grime in particular is very deceptive.

 

 

  

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6 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Ian, once again, thanks very much for having a close up look for me. Much appreciated.

I thought it was probably an optical illusion, and looking at the detailed close up pics you kindly provide, it very obviously is. But it's always worth checking out, just in case.

The grime in particular is very deceptive.

I think it also goes to show that - at very high magnifications - no two strikes from the same die are absolutely identical (almost, often, but never quite..)

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I was lucky enough to pick this one up on the Bay , unattributed as an  F763  [ Gouby A1+B ] [ Bulging Eyes ]   . Its the same as Example 2 On Richards site .   I know Its a little battered, but so hard to find in any condition.

I also note that both the Reverses on the Gouby  A1+B    and the   A+B  are different in that the date width on the   A1+B  is wider.

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