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John A

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I am just starting out with 1887 coins. I have all the silver denominations, except Gothic Florin and the proofs I think. I have a 1/2 sovereign coming in as well as some coins from grading soon.

Here is my latest video

 

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17 hours ago, John A said:

I am just starting out with 1887 coins. I have all the silver denominations, except Gothic Florin and the proofs I think. I have a 1/2 sovereign coming in as well as some coins from grading soon.

Here is my latest video

 

Welcome to the forum, John - nice pair of coins. Must say it's a neat idea shooting a video of your stuff and uploading it.

What you said about e bay resonates. We have a thread dedicated to e bay and the crap that accompanies it.

Do you collect American coins as well?

 

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2 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Welcome to the forum, John - nice pair of coins. Must say it's a neat idea shooting a video of your stuff and uploading it.

What you said about e bay resonates. We have a thread dedicated to e bay and the crap that accompanies it.

Do you collect American coins as well?

 

I used to but changed over. I always wanted to collect pre-decimals but was intimidated. After I learned a bit I dived in.

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Blogger! Fair play, but a blogger nonetheless. Wishing you well, John, but it's not for me! ?

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26 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Blogger! Fair play, but a blogger nonetheless. Wishing you well, John, but it's not for me! ?

Sorry, this is beyond me as I don't understand blogs or much of the vacuous nonsense that emanates from my computer or television screen, but what purpose is served by posting an 8 minute clip on you tube about unboxing coins? What could anyone hope to learn from it? Goods inwards and goods out department activities aren't normally intellectually taxing.

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Lots of people make lots of money  from monitizing platforms like you-tube and others! Building a following in niche markets is extremely profitable when hits start reaching the 100's of thousand mark. 

This is precisely why we can google how-to's for anything nowadays, from changing a bulb in a 20 year old caravan fridge, to building a space rocket in 10,000 easy steps. The sites and how-to videos that are genuinely useful get a lot of traffic, and traffic is money!

Vloggers are the new cash superstars!

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Moreover, in numismatics, "vlogging" on the forum could have its uses. An uploaded video doesn't necessarily have to be in exactly the same format as John supplied. But it could on occasions help to more accurately describe the issues with a given coin, in a way that the written word doesn't always lend itself to. Especially when the topic under discussion is convoluted. 

I shall keep it under active consideration for when the occasion demands.

   

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17 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Moreover, in numismatics, "vlogging" on the forum could have its uses. An uploaded video doesn't necessarily have to be in exactly the same format as John supplied. But it could on occasions help to more accurately describe the issues with a given coin, in a way that the written word doesn't always lend itself to. Especially when the topic under discussion is convoluted. 

I shall keep it under active consideration for when the occasion demands.

   

Nothing wrong with any medium that aids to convey one's point, I 100% agree. However, I'd say your motives would be different if you uploaded a video?

john used a number of terms in his  video that made me feel he wasn't new to numismatics, and that made me wonder what on earth he thought someone who had some basic insight into coins would get from it?

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Aren't most of the mega-viewing figures mostly like facebook postings of people getting pissed in Ibiza or the asian idiot with the silly dance? I'm just trying to imagine how you would get hundreds of thousands of people watching something remotely practical and I'm struggling to think of anything common to so many people that requires advice.

Certainly in numismatics, the two or three dozen daily visits to my site might generate two or three views if I posted anything. That's why I use this forum instead if I want to say something useful as more people read it. I can't see a blog having any traction when people aren't interested in the first place.

I know GC posts things on facebook as he told me and he gets a few hundred views a day, but the response is akin to Sun readers buying the newspaper for page 3. Reading the content is the last thing on their mind. All they want is a pretty picture, which frankly is wasting everybody's time. :(

 

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Check out these guys! I've followed their blog for years, out of sheer amazement if nothing else. I know it's not coins, but they're doing alright, and I really like them. Have a look a the stats, and then just browse their site from their homepage...nothing fancy, but it works, and serves to demonstrate a point! :)

https://pinchofyum.com/category/making-money-from-a-food-blog

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12 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Check out these guys! I've followed their blog for years, out of sheer amazement if nothing else. I know it's not coins, but they're doing alright, and I really like them. Have a look a the stats, and then just browse their site from their homepage...nothing fancy, but it works, and serves to demonstrate a point! :)

https://pinchofyum.com/category/making-money-from-a-food-blog

I had a quick look through the income report and I still can't see why someone would pay them to post a recipe. Who pays for these things? Father Christmas? I guess success comes from working hard, but it would require a huge amount of canvassing to get people to advertise with you and then you take your eye off the ball and the business suffers. A plus for them is that everyone has to eat, so any company can advertise in the knowledge that their customers cook food, so it has to be potentially profitable, but surely nobody consults a random person on the internet to find out how to cook? That's just plain weird. Better off getting a wife that can cook, or at least buy yourself a can opener, after all, cooking is about satisfying hunger with a palatable dish and isn't about creating an artistic masterpiece, despite what the pretentious t**ts say.

I think coins would struggle though. According to the Shopify home page, I had someone looking for Glendining 1989 catalogues today. I have 1989s and just about every other year since the mid-70s complete or nearly so, but not enough time to go through and list them, let alone the other auction houses. How are you supposed to find time to list dozens of auction catalogues, recipes or whatever every day and still find time to witter on inanely about them at the same time? And ultimately, nobody would pay for an average daily viewer count of 30 or so people. It is little wonder John took his website down recently

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Here's the thing Rob. They're not trying to find advertisers. If you have good viewing figures with lots of daily hits, youtube set up the ads and give you a %.

 

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6 hours ago, bagerap said:

Here's the thing Rob. They're not trying to find advertisers. If you have good viewing figures with lots of daily hits, youtube set up the ads and give you a %.

 

That certainly saves a lot of legwork. Presumably having ad-blocker installed would not count as a view? If it doesn't then I can see the potential from the poster's side.

I have made 9539 posts as I write. Where's my cut? ;)

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3 minutes ago, Rob said:

That certainly saves a lot of legwork. Presumably having ad-blocker installed would not count as a view? If it doesn't then I can see the potential from the poster's side.

I have made 9539 posts as I write. Where's my cut? ;)

That's hit the nail on the head rob! People create pages on blogs that might only generate 50 hits a year, but it's only taken them a 200-500 word article to create. Those pages might (should) have leading links of other points of interest, then the site gets 2 page hits from its visitor, and so on.

basically, these guys write thousands of pages for their sites, and you can do the maths! I think I've said to you before on here about the material you've contributed on here (just look at the views).

The sweet spot in blogging or vlogging is to generate specialist niche pages of interest so they can generate regular visitors (this is what the 'give us your email' is all about). Equally, generating viral pages through social media links is also the way to go.

The ads on web pages are no different to YouTube, you simply insert a little bit of code or a widget to automatically appear on your pages, and then you forget about it and get down to writing, Google (as one example) serves the ads and does the rest, namely they then transfer the money into your bank account!

People make millions at it!

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People make millions even talking about blogging! Quite a good site, actually! :)

https://problogger.com/

You also talked about limited interest in coins (at least I think you did, can't quite remember), but you only have to look at the number of coins for sale on eBay to see there's enough people out there. Even the people selling rubbish that they've gathered from old uncle Jim's estate have probably tried to look something up on Google! :)

Anyway, apologies, John, didn't mean to crash your thread (probably done your video hits some good, ironically) :) 

 

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I did notice that everything on the recipe pages was accessible through links.

My programming skills aren't up to putting ads in though. I'm not sure I can relate to or cope with social media either. Maybe one day......

Sorry John. The topic in the op has wandered off course - not for the first time.

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9 hours ago, Rob said:

I had a quick look through the income report and I still can't see why someone would pay them to post a recipe. Who pays for these things? Father Christmas? I guess success comes from working hard, but it would require a huge amount of canvassing to get people to advertise with you and then you take your eye off the ball and the business suffers. A plus for them is that everyone has to eat, so any company can advertise in the knowledge that their customers cook food, so it has to be potentially profitable, but surely nobody consults a random person on the internet to find out how to cook? That's just plain weird. Better off getting a wife that can cook, or at least buy yourself a can opener, after all, cooking is about satisfying hunger with a palatable dish and isn't about creating an artistic masterpiece, despite what the pretentious t**ts say.

I think coins would struggle though. According to the Shopify home page, I had someone looking for Glendining 1989 catalogues today. I have 1989s and just about every other year since the mid-70s complete or nearly so, but not enough time to go through and list them, let alone the other auction houses. How are you supposed to find time to list dozens of auction catalogues, recipes or whatever every day and still find time to witter on inanely about them at the same time? And ultimately, nobody would pay for an average daily viewer count of 30 or so people. It is little wonder John took his website down recently

I think most of the page visits I used to get on my website were people trying to get a price on a coin(s) that they had found in car boot sales or family members dusty drawers (no puns Peter!!!).

T'internet is a strange and mysterious place to a dinosaur like me but my middle boy (8 next month) wants me to help him set up a facetube/youtime thingy so he can get subscribers watching him doing stupid things. He needs my help if any "dangerous people" start to contact him. He can make "lots of money" apparently. What a sad and dangerous world we seem to have created for our descendants. I think at 8 years old my interests extended to all things army (action man, little soldiers, playing "Japs and English"), football and bike riding.

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I've had two sales this week off the site - both fraudulent. Get more of those than genuine sales.

People must think you were born yesterday, like the idiot 5 years ago who made two purchases 13 months apart giving a different address, but only changed the last digit on his mobile contact number, and then 6 months after that made a third purchase but used the same email address he had used 19 months previously. Sometimes you fear for the mental capacity of this country. :(

 

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11 minutes ago, argentumandcoins said:

I think most of the page visits I used to get on my website were people trying to get a price on a coin(s) that they had found in car boot sales or family members dusty drawers (no puns Peter!!!).

T'internet is a strange and mysterious place to a dinosaur like me but my middle boy (8 next month) wants me to help him set up a facetube/youtime thingy so he can get subscribers watching him doing stupid things. He needs my help if any "dangerous people" start to contact him. He can make "lots of money" apparently. What a sad and dangerous world we seem to have created for our descendants. I think at 8 years old my interests extended to all things army (action man, little soldiers, playing "Japs and English"), football and bike riding.

My lad just turned 8 and wants to do exactly the same, make videos of him playing games and talking about it. I have tried to explain to him why, at 8 years old, I am not prepared to pet him do it.

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14 minutes ago, Rob said:

I've had two sales this week off the site - both fraudulent. Get more of those than genuine sales.

People must think you were born yesterday, like the idiot 5 years ago who made two purchases 13 months apart giving a different address, but only changed the last digit on his mobile contact number, and then 6 months after that made a third purchase but used the same email address he had used 19 months previously. Sometimes you fear for the mental capacity of this country. :(

 

I had the same guy contact me twice trying to buy gold coins and pay by credit card, oh, and could I ship them immediately as the address he wanted them sending to would only have somebody home to receive for the next day.....

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14 minutes ago, Nonmortuus said:

My lad just turned 8 and wants to do exactly the same, make videos of him playing games and talking about it. I have tried to explain to him why, at 8 years old, I am not prepared to pet him do it.

Sadly my lad lives with his vacuous mother and the "anything for a quiet life" rule applies, hence the earring at 6, dyed blonde hair at the front for the past 12 months etc etc.

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6 minutes ago, argentumandcoins said:

Sadly my lad lives with his vacuous mother and the "anything for a quiet life" rule applies, hence the earring at 6, dyed blonde hair at the front for the past 12 months etc etc.

Christ, dying his hair at 8...poor you, John! My boy's 9 and fortunately things are still agreeable at home, so it's a lot easier to guide him.

He went to a 'big school' open day the other day and came back with a 2p he'd electroplated 'gold!' Got me proper thinkin' it did! ?

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47 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Christ, dying his hair at 8...poor you, John! My boy's 9 and fortunately things are still agreeable at home, so it's a lot easier to guide him.

He went to a 'big school' open day the other day and came back with a 2p he'd electroplated 'gold!' Got me proper thinkin' it did! ?

Ebay here we come:

LOOK MUST SEE RARE gold proof 2p mint error (wrong mettle used).

I've never seed another so it must be uneek. Super rae investmant. Happy bidding.

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21 minutes ago, argentumandcoins said:

Ebay here we come:

LOOK MUST SEE RARE gold proof 2p mint error (wrong mettle used).

I've never seed another so it must be uneek. Super rae investmant. Happy bidding.

We'll make 'em, you list 'em! 50/50 ?

 

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