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1948 florin - fake or real?

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Looking help with the worn 1948 Florin in the photo album above. I have added comparison photos to a real 1948 florin. 

It is the same diameter as the real one but about 1/2 the width. The quality of the obverse and reverse seem to match perfectly yet I believe it is made of silver. Only ping and ice tests done, no magnet. 

Searched all over the Internet and can't find any information about a thin silver florin. 

 

Any ideas? 

 

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Struck on the wrong blank. I have a 1967 that is also too thin and origianlly a blank used for Burundi coinage. It's unlikely to be silver as virtually everyone was using Cupro-Nickel by then. If you send it to the Royal Mint, they might be able to tell you what the host flan was originally used for.

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I am not as convinced, I think it could have been squashed (hence the flat areas) and had the rims filed off. It is amazing what a difference in thickness occurs if the rims are removed. I have seen a few farthings without rims (post mint damage) and the coins just appear substantially thinner. What convinces you it is on the wrong blank Rob? I admit is does seem slightly off-track on the Obverse, but that could also be due to being squashed.

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5 minutes ago, Colin G. said:

I am not as convinced, I think it could have been squashed (hence the flat areas) and had the rims filed off. It is amazing what a difference in thickness occurs if the rims are removed. I have seen a few farthings without rims (post mint damage) and the coins just appear substantially thinner. What convinces you it is on the wrong blank Rob? I admit is does seem slightly off-track on the Obverse, but that could also be due to being squashed.

I wouldn't say it's filed because the rims still have their reeding, otherwise it would have a lot more striations which wouldn't be as uniform as in the picture. I would also go with wrong blank.

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Wouldn't the deepest parts of the design be the weak areas if a thin flan was used? How did your's strike up, Rob?

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Is it greater in diameter than the comparison coin? The rims look wider, could it have been struck without a collar/broken collar?

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5 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Is it greater in diameter than the comparison coin? The rims look wider, could it have been struck without a collar/broken collar?

Diameter seems to be the exact same. 

In person, I know it is difficult to tell, but the main body of the coin is definitely thinner than that or the real one. 

As quite a new collector this is the first coin that has me stumped. 

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Do you have coins scales? What are the weights? If it genuinely feels thinner, in all reality it probably is!

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Looks CuNi, not silver to me, and struck on a thinner and/or smaller flans.  I love the off-metal strikes but I think this not. Now if you can only find a 1946 florin struck in copper-nickel!

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