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Auction Coin Values Help Needed

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There are a couple of coins coming up in my local Auction House that I am interested in. I am wondering if these are worth going for they are estimated at £20-40 what do you think on condition and value please. I am not desperate for then but just may have a go if any of you think it may be worth it.

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Is it a penny and a halfpenny, or a twopence and a penny? The larger coin is the only one you'd probably want, and I imagine would be worth more if a penny.  It would cost more than £40 from a dealer whether a penny or twopence.

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14 minutes ago, Stuntman said:

Is it a penny and a halfpenny, or a twopence and a penny? The larger coin is the only one you'd probably want, and I imagine would be worth more if a penny.  It would cost more than £40 from a dealer whether a penny or twopence.

According to the auction catalog they are  A 1797 cartwheel penny and an 1806 2d coin if that is any help. I don't normally look at these as a rule so know nothing of values etc. You are right only interested in the Cartwheel penny really as that is the best condition. Just thought I may get a bargain assuming that the price stays withing that range of estimate. That's why I was asking about values.

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I think it's a twopence and a penny. Nice edges on the 2d and a reasonable price if within estimate I would say.

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In my experience, coins in local Auction Houses often go for rather more than they would in a specialised coin auction. I also find that estimates are often much lower than the realistic price, so don't be surprised if this lot doesn't go for rather more than the top end estimate. If it doesn't then its a fair buy, especially the cartwheel since that has very nice edges and details.

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Lot 2469 of this upcoming LCA auction is in EF and estimated at £225-275. Better than the one in your photo but really can't tell, the edges are very good but the photo is taken at an angle probably to not to show the wear. If the coin is VF it could drop to £50. I would study as many past prices and qualities as you can and then go and see the coin in hand.

Having said that, a cartwheel penny is one of the British coins with the most historical significance, if not the most, so highly desirable in my opinion and will always be easy to sell. Take an informed guess and go for it!

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The thickness makes me think 2d, but I haven't access to a book to confirm by portrait.

Regardless, you would have to walk a long mile to find an example, especially of a 2d, with rims like that! A bargain in my opinion! Clean the other coin up and chuck it on eBay to offset some of your costs! 👍

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Just cast an eye over that neck mark and eyebrow to make sure there's nothing untoward. It'll have been cleaned before, but it's starting up a new tone already. :)

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Forget the portrait. The trident pointing to the legend says it is a twopence.

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32 minutes ago, Rob said:

Forget the portrait. The trident pointing to the legend says it is a twopence.

Never noticed that before! :)

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It' cannot be an 1806 2d anyway. So the lot is a cartwheel twopence and an 1806 penny.  The penny isn't worth all that much (£10 absolute tops?) but I agree about the edges on the twopence being very good.  Here are my two examples of the same coins.  I paid £36 for the 1806 penny a couple of years ago and I've had the cartwheel twopence about 35 years, it was a combined birthday and Christmas present from my parents when I was a schoolboy!

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Hi Guys sorry have not replied sooner. Thank you so much for all your advice. I did manage to win the coins in the auction for a total of £48 for the two so pleased with that. Below some pictures of the purchased coins. Please let me know what you think and any possible values as a guide for me please.

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1797 Two Penny Rev.jpg1797 Two Penny Obv.jpg

 

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About £30 tops for the cartwheel penny and £5 for the 1806 on a good day. So not a bad buy.

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2 hours ago, declan03 said:

About £30 tops for the cartwheel penny and £5 for the 1806 on a good day. So not a bad buy.

Spot on with the 1806 thats what I sold it for as for the 1797 I have just sold this on eBay for £58 so did all right I think. Bought them in a local auction not really what I collect so decided to try and get a small profit towards something else.

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Well done on the cartwheel.  Fickle old place ebay, i sold one of these last year, in my opinion in near perfect condition and i,m sure i got about £50/£60 for it. Wish i kept it for that price.

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On 5/30/2017 at 9:56 AM, UPINSMOKE said:

Spot on with the 1806 thats what I sold it for as for the 1797 I have just sold this on eBay for £58 so did all right I think. Bought them in a local auction not really what I collect so decided to try and get a small profit towards something else.

You are lucky that managed to sold them on your price. Good luck in the future.

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