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PWA 1967

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On 11/28/2017 at 2:02 PM, jelida said:

Excellent Pete, that is very good news, I hope you are soon up to full fitness. My poor old Dad (89) has to have a colostomy next week, so yours truly will be spending some time in Aberaeron looking after my memory impaired Mum (86). It’s going to be a stressful time, but hopefully I’ll still make the MCF on 10th for a break!

Jerry

 

Jerry.

My wife has had both a illiostomy (similar to a colonoscopy), and a Urostomy. While it does require some lifestyle changes, it does in fact work pretty well. I wish you Father the Best of Luck, and also to you, and your family, in your support responsibility.

 

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NHS please have a rethink :)

I was taken into hospital by ambulance again and was in for a few days and cannot thank the NHS enough once again.

However when i was discharged they gave me a carrier bag of medication......

Asking the nurse were did i pay for it all ,she just told me it was free for everyone that is discharged.

They are giving thousands of £s worth of drugs to people like myself everyday and IMO should charge everyone that pays for a prescription.

All the staff were brilliant and feel £millions could be put quite easily back into the system.

Pete.

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For all the moaning people do about them they are great   -  and having it free (paid through taxes) is an amazing service. What are we rated?  3rd in the world?  Can't praise them enough. 

Any 1st world country should have a system where you can be treated regardless of how big your pay check is. Easily funded through tax.  I can't understand why the USA doesn't follow suit on this one - no brainer - keep the population healthy and they live longer work harder and pay more tax.  I think that their health system makes so many people rich that any attempts at helping the poor are shut down right away. Horrible attitude. 

 

 

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Hear, hear Pete.

Finest people in/from the world. Long may it be so.

Sorry to hear you've been unwell. I hope you're on the mend.

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If you listen to some people, you would think the NHS is on the verge of total collapse. I recently went to my GP with an eye problem (tear in the retina). I saw the GP at 11.00am. By the time I got home, I had a phone call from the nearest eye specialist for an appointment the next day. Went to see him, got lasered and discharged at 2.00pm. So, all in all 27 hours from diagnosis to treatment. Brilliant, and certainly not an organisation in the crisis and chaos politicians would have you believe.

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That being said, you do hear some horror stories...  although in an organisation that big there will always be errors and misplacements. I think they are great - I won't get into the politics of funding it, lol. I don't think it should be privatised though, we should pay what we need to to keep it going, you never know who will need it and when. 

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3 hours ago, DrP said:

That being said, you do hear some horror stories...  although in an organisation that big there will always be errors and misplacements. I think they are great - I won't get into the politics of funding it, lol. I don't think it should be privatised though, we should pay what we need to to keep it going, you never know who will need it and when. 

Agreed. The LibDems proposed penny on income tax purely for the NHS seems like a bargain - especially now that personal allowances are £11k and rising.

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6 hours ago, DrP said:

That being said, you do hear some horror stories...  although in an organisation that big there will always be errors and misplacements. I think they are great - I won't get into the politics of funding it, lol. I don't think it should be privatised though, we should pay what we need to to keep it going, you never know who will need it and when. 

Yes we need the service but we must vet carefully who they employ. Some of these nurses and doctors are not even qualified. It's frightening to be perfectly honest.

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9 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

NHS please have a rethink :)

I was taken into hospital by ambulance again and was in for a few days and cannot thank the NHS enough once again.

However when i was discharged they gave me a carrier bag of medication......

Asking the nurse were did i pay for it all ,she just told me it was free for everyone that is discharged.

They are giving thousands of £s worth of drugs to people like myself everyday and IMO should charge everyone that pays for a prescription.

All the staff were brilliant and feel £millions could be put quite easily back into the system.

Pete.

Wondered where you'd been, Pete. Hope you are now feeling better. 

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56 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

Yes we need the service but we must vet carefully who they employ. Some of these nurses and doctors are not even qualified. It's frightening to be perfectly honest.

Don't believe everything (make that "anything") you read in The Daily Mail!

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Just now, Peckris said:

Don't believe everything (make that "anything") you read in The Daily Mail!

My sources come from actual family who work in the NHS hospitals. You know the Irish they do like to become Nurses :)   . Thankfully most are dealt with long before they reach a hospital ward. :) . No different to any other business there will always be those who try it on. Even the qualified ones go rogue from time to time. 

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As a frequent user (I have advanced MS) I can say that I have never had these experiences you speak of. In fact, the lamentable skills shortage will get much much worse after Brexit, and I've yet to meet an NHS professional who says different. We have QUALIFIED staff in the NHS from all over the world, but as soon as someone does an Enoch Powell (Nigel Farage, to name but one) look what we end up with. 

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3 hours ago, Peckris said:

As a frequent user (I have advanced MS) I can say that I have never had these experiences you speak of. In fact, the lamentable skills shortage will get much much worse after Brexit, and I've yet to meet an NHS professional who says different. We have QUALIFIED staff in the NHS from all over the world, but as soon as someone does an Enoch Powell (Nigel Farage, to name but one) look what we end up with. 

I also am a frequent user having narcolepsy and cataplexy and have had to research my own medication because the so called Consultants are out of touch and the guy who is my consultant even forgot to contact the then PCT to request my medication be sanctioned . How can you forget when you are dealing with somebody else's life? I still am 1 of 62 in the entire UK who was allowed the medication. Another thing I find extremely distressing having to go cap in hand for medication that should be given without jumping through bureaucracy and postcode lottery hoops. The NHS is failing and unless they open their eyes a see that people do actually live longer and more people are alive than in 1945 and the money needed is a damn sight more than they give. I nearly lost my daughter whilst she was giving birth due to the incompetence of the nursing staff not doing their jobs correctly. She ended up fitting and losing 4 pints of blood. So whilst I agree for the most part the Nurses do an exceptional job under real pressure and are not paid what they are worth not all of the NHS is perfect especially when it comes to midwifery :)

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13 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

My sources come from actual family who work in the NHS hospitals. 

Be careful with judging a whole country or a massive organisation based on the testimony of one or 2 people. Even if you know and trust them. They might have seen the worst of it. There will awalys be mishaps even if run it perfectly and throw all the money at it.  Having unqualified doctors is illegal I would think, so if it happens it isn't by design and will be stopped if the right channels here about it.

 

In support of YOUR story - I have a friend who went to work as a cleaner in the hospital. He is a little 'odd' with his bi-polar stuff.  He is very intelligent and enthusiastic...  he read up on hygiene an cleaning and steralization in operating rooms. He had been there a week and they made him supervizor of cleaning the operating rooms before surgery (because he was SO thorough and would shut up about how important it was to get every nook and cranny cleaned to avoid super bugs.. He was good. Problem was - he'd been there 2 weeks, had NO training - hadn't been given any instructions on what cleaning products to use and how to actually clean an operating theatre.  He turned the job down in disgust saying that he expected training to be able to do his own job first without being expect to to train others to do it. This was some time ago though and I am sure it wouldn't be the case everywhere.

The problem in the case of my pal was the funding the hospital had to employ, train and keep skilled cleaners with technical knowledge about hygiene. You can get cleaners....   then they need money for training.  You can get skilled people  -  but if you pay them a minimum cleaning wage then they won't stay in the job.  

 

 

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14 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

I also am a frequent user having narcolepsy and cataplexy and have had to research my own medication because the so called Consultants are out of touch and the guy who is my consultant even forgot to contact the then PCT to request my medication be sanctioned . How can you forget when you are dealing with somebody else's life? I still am 1 of 62 in the entire UK who was allowed the medication. Another thing I find extremely distressing having to go cap in hand for medication that should be given without jumping through bureaucracy and postcode lottery hoops. The NHS is failing and unless they open their eyes a see that people do actually live longer and more people are alive than in 1945 and the money needed is a damn sight more than they give. I nearly lost my daughter whilst she was giving birth due to the incompetence of the nursing staff not doing their jobs correctly. She ended up fitting and losing 4 pints of blood. So whilst I agree for the most part the Nurses do an exceptional job under real pressure and are not paid what they are worth not all of the NHS is perfect especially when it comes to midwifery :)

That's very true, but it's a result of (1) NICE and their ludicrously delayed judgements on whether to licence a new drug, and it's so often "No", and (2) despite their - I would say criminal - assertions to the contrary, the government cuts in real terms to the NHS budgets. Far from failing, I think the staff who are there do a heroic job in the face of their greedy bungling paymasters.

There will always be tragic failures, that's for sure. But if you look at how many people are treated by an understaffed, under-budget health service, you have to feel nothing but admiration. Add to that a population who are getting ever more like the States in matters of obesity, drink, drug abuse, lack of exercise, poor diets etc, and really we should give out medals to the health professionals.

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