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copper123

what I got for £3 in brum today G what a bargain

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It needs a clean sum heavy encrustation on there but well worth £3

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Got a pic of the reverse, copper?

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That is fantastic, sideways G in REG, well done! Presumably in G of D:G too.

Jerry

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The question is, what will the value be when cleaned? Clearly more than £3, but ultimately dependant on how well it is done. As it stands, it's horrible.

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What is the Reverse like?

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worse yes - this might take some time this cleaning project - any surgestions out there ? tried the usual acetone

I  imagine the sarcastic ones might be "spend more money on a decent coin " LOL

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A soak in olive oil wouldn't hurt. 

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5 minutes ago, copper123 said:

worse yes - this might take some time this cleaning project - any surgestions out there ? tried the usual acetone

I  imagine the sarcastic ones might be "spend more money on a decent coin " LOL

I'm sarcastic and I have one surgestion, but it's not "spend more money on a decent coin" ;) 

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Definitely can't grumble at that price!! Well done

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will try the olive oil first - any surgestions on how long for?

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Just now, copper123 said:

will try the olive oil first - any surgestions on how long for?

From what I've read, about the rest of your life should be a good start. :wacko:

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Virgin or extra virgin?

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Unfortunately acetone will have no effect on inorganic salts such as verdigris. And I wouldnt be in a rush to turn to the olive oil either (though as a mild organic acid it may be helpful if all else fails). I would initially de-grease the coin of those waxy handling deposits by scrubbing fairly aggressively in petrol using something like a small paint brush cut short. It shouldnt abrade the patina, or alter the colour. Then wash in acetone. What you will be left with is the stubborn verdigris, and here I do like verdicare, though it takes time as the verd has to be manually 'picked' at periodically. I use a 20 to 40 X binocular microscope, which helps a lot. I would have thought that this coin could be 'saved'.

The bottom line is that you might have to strip the coin using a weak acid, and re-tone it. There may well be some minor pitting if the verd has removed much metal.

 

Jerry

 

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At least 4 weeks in olive oil, changing the oil after 2 weeks I would say.  That should get rid of a decent amount of the verd on the reverse.  Can't do much, if any, harm in my opinion.

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TYVM you lot I will hopefully put the coin on later - after treatment - like you lot said most anything you can do will improve the coin

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Look forward to seeing the results - I reckon that's a great little find. :)

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Great find, but whatever is done to it, will never be any great shakes, condition wise.  

Often the case with rare finds, unfortunately.

 

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I strongly suspect that the gunk on the coin has ment it's gone undetected  over all these years , even the dealer missed it .

It is in fact probably one of the great rarities of the bronze farthing series - its much rarer than the 1860 mule , and on a par with peck 530 - thats why it goes for silly money in any grade , I am sure only 50-100 exist and most are in well established collections .

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Try Verdicare.It won't make it worse.

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ta peter you are about the best on advice here so verdicare it will be

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Please keep us updated of how it comes along. :)

 

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verdicare  ordered today - expensive stuff expensive postage - I hope its worth it !

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18 minutes ago, copper123 said:

verdicare  ordered today - expensive stuff expensive postage - I hope its worth it !

It is expensive, and I find it very helpful, but not all do;  the repeated 'picking' at the surface of the verd is an essential part of the process, as per the instructions, as is time. Do get a good magnifier so that you can be very precise. 

Jerry

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