Brockages and other errors

[The Coinery 32]

I have always enjoyed looking at Brockages and coins with errors.

Within my collection I have only 5 and I have attached photos.

The copper coloured disc is actually or would have been an English 2p

I look forward to seeing yours.

[Nordle11 564]

Guy, please sell me that 1874h mis-strike........... I'll put a couple of my favourites up, I've got far too many now it's getting silly  

[Nordle11 564]

[Guest 1967 GB Very unusual Die F]

1967 GB Very unusual Die Flaw Error Penny.
Reverse at 4 o’clock has a die flaw going through the “Y” & the field is raised to the level with the top of the “NY”
Obverse has extra metal at 4 o’clock with a die crack going from the top of it almost to the Queens chin, & at 3 o’clock the extra metal is level with the  “EG”
Not sure what would cause it unless the die fractured; the weight is 9.4g & is aUNC
What do you think I could get on eBay ?
 

[Rob 3,002]

10 minutes ago, Guest 1967 GB Very unusual Die F said:

What do you think I could get on eBay ?

Put it on and find out. I don't have a crystal ball, nor does anyone else. Could go for 99p or £99. It's a lottery.

[Nordle11 564]

13 hours ago, Guest 1967 GB Very unusual Die F said:

1967 GB Very unusual Die Flaw Error Penny.
Reverse at 4 o’clock has a die flaw going through the “Y” & the field is raised to the level with the top of the “NY”
Obverse has extra metal at 4 o’clock with a die crack going from the top of it almost to the Queens chin, & at 3 o’clock the extra metal is level with the  “EG”
Not sure what would cause it unless the die fractured; the weight is 9.4g & is aUNC
What do you think I could get on eBay ?

 

It would be called a 'retained rim cud', like you say it arises from problematic dies. You also have quite a clear blakesley effect, in 2 separate places. The weak areas are caused by the die pulling all that metal into the cud, causing the areas directly opposite to lose details.

If you want to sell it I would take it off your hands. eBay will get you about 10-20 quid.

PM me if you want to get rid.

[jaggy 528]

Traveling this week so don't have the internet connection to upload photos. 

But I do have a George V 1949 uniface sixpence. Per ESC 4271, this is likely a Pattern sixpence rather than an error.

I also have another George VI 1949 Sixpence which was struck on a split planchet and weighs in at 1.14g.

[mrbadexample 985]

On 9/6/2016 at 8:37 AM, Nordle11 said:

 

 

 

I like the extra face on that one.

[Nordle11 564]

One of my favs. In the right light you can see the whole exergue and date under the ONE on the rev.

[PWA 1967 1,841]

14 hours ago, Rob said:

Put it on and find out. I don't have a crystal ball, nor does anyone else. Could go for 99p or £99. It's a lottery.

The coin ....Guest.....Was it not purchased from ebay ? as i have seen it before 

[Paul O 0]

1 hour ago, PWA 1967 said:

The coin ....Guest.....Was it not purchased from ebay ? as i have seen it before 

No it's not form eBay, I have 4 of these that are identical, they came from a local general auction,

I was told the vendor worked for the Mint as a setter (who knows if that’s true)

I recon it’s even rarer to have 4 of the same

Edited October 25, 2016 by Paul O

[Nordle11 564]

6 minutes ago, Paul O said:

No it's not form eBay, I have 4 of these that are identical, they came from a local general auction,

I was told the vendor worked for the Mint as a setter (who knows if that’s true)

I recon it’s even rarer to have 4 of the same

 Surely that cannot be correct - more of something can't equate to it being rarer..

There should always be very similar errors out there of any error coin, unless the mint worker has EXTREMELY quick fingers and stops production just one error coin in (no chance).

If you did want to sell one, I'd be interested  

[Paul O 0]

18 minutes ago, Nordle11 said:

 Surely that cannot be correct - more of something can't equate to it being rarer..

There should always be very similar errors out there of any error coin, unless the mint worker has EXTREMELY quick fingers and stops production just one error coin in (no chance).

If you did want to sell one, I'd be interested  

I see what your saying, but all 4 are the same (Identical), so that's got to be worth more than a single (same sort of thing as consecutive number notes, sort of)

Having said that, say If I found 4 unique Celtic coins from the same dies, would they be worth more as a combined group  or sold separately ?

[PWA 1967 1,841]

Well they are going up in numbers as the one sold on ebay makes it five 

[Nordle11 564]

34 minutes ago, Paul O said:

I see what your saying, but all 4 are the same (Identical), so that's got to be worth more than a single (same sort of thing as consecutive number notes, sort of)

Having said that, say If I found 4 unique Celtic coins from the same dies, would they be worth more as a combined group  or sold separately ?

Correct, in the sense that 4 of something is worth more than 1 of something. Not in the sense that the value of each coin goes up proportionally to the known quantity, the value of each one will still remain the same, if you have 1 or 50. Maybe for other things this isn't the case, but certainly with an error coin like this. Regarding them being consecutive strikes - 1) that's not something people look for in coins 2) how you you know they're consecutive? Just because they're the same, they could be the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 10th examples that were cranked out. They would still look the same  

[PWA 1967 1,841]

I will spell it out as easier.

Please post pictures of all four you have of just the obverse, they will not be identical and will have marks ,scratches that distiguish one from another.

Thank you.

Pete.

[Paul O 0]

3 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

I will spell it out as easier.

Please post pictures of all four you have of just the obverse, they will not be identical and will have marks ,scratches that distiguish one from another.

Thank you.

Pete.

ok will do, have you got the item number from ebay ?

 

[Paul O 0]

pics of the other 3, not very good light in here

[PWA 1967 1,841]

Thanks Paul.

Was looking for the ebay one earier as i no it was the same but cant find it now as maybe over three months ago.

Interesting as you correctly say they are the same and you have the four together and show the same similarities aswell on the reverse 

Good luck selling them.

Pete.

[Nordle11 564]

If he is selling any, he won't get far, I've already asked twice and been ignored  

[Paul O 0]

2 hours ago, Nordle11 said:

If he is selling any, he won't get far, I've already asked twice and been ignored  

Sorry Nordle11, stil thinking about it, & tracked/Signed post to Spain will cost nearly £8

To be honest, the 4 cost me £22, so there should be a tiny profit in it

I will probably put them in LCA, error coins seem to do well there

[PWA 1967 1,841]

I am in the uk and will have one you can post Matts to me in the same packet and i will forward it on to him ,so not a problem there 

I will pay for both so thats two sold.

Edited October 26, 2016 by PWA 1967

[Nordle11 564]

Oh I know the postage price to Spain well, don't worry  but I would assume the postage costs too of course so shouldn't matter.

A good buy for £22, you'll get your money back and a little bit more. I take it you're going to consign them as a lot (all 4 together)?

If you do, I can assure you you'll lose money compared to selling them individually. You're welcome to consider my offer above of £20 for just one, you're almost recouping all your costs back in one sale then  

[Nordle11 564]

4 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

I am in the uk and will have one you can post Matts to me in the same packet and i will forward it on to him ,so not a problem there 

Cheers Pete

[PWA 1967 1,841]

In fact i will pay you for all four straight away so you can get rid of them.

If any other forum members want one i will pass on.......seems easier than messing about.

Will give you £80 for them.

Pete.

Edited October 26, 2016 by PWA 1967