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1797 Cartwheels 1 & 2 pence Grades please

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1797 Cartwheels 1 & 2 pence grades please.

also I have noticed that the 2 pence has 11 leaves is it of more value than the 10 leaf 

cheers Don

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Both nearly VF for wear, but the penny's surfaces are dire. The two pence is ten leaves and that's normal.

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Fair for the top and good fine for the bottom

Values £2 and £12 , on the plus side the bottom coin has no edge knocks which could even get you £20 i surpose

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Fair for top £3 and Good Fine for second £30

 

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The actual wear on the penny is not that great with hair detail remaining and the crosses detail on the shield meeting at the intersection, but the corrosion means I would stick it in the rummage box and get what I could for it.

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I would say the Penny has been buried ,as ive have found similar looking surface corrosion on cartwheels whilst metal detecting.

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the strange thing is how did anyone lose a coin of that size ?

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Can't see how the 1d is worth anything apart from nearly oz of cu.The 2d isn't too bad and I'm sure would get £20 on ebay.

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

Can't see how the 1d is worth anything apart from nearly oz of cu.

I think you'd be surprised Peter. I see even worn, beat-to-hell examples selling so wouldn't be surprised to see that go for more than scrap. Look at this for example. :o

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Thanks for your reply's

cheers Don

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That ebay item looks like its been dug up as well - I suspect £4.20 is just a bit of a  freak result  - I would suspect two unknowlageable bidders bidding against each other

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2 hours ago, copper123 said:

That ebay item looks like its been dug up as well - I suspect £4.20 is just a bit of a  freak result  - I would suspect two unknowlageable bidders bidding against each other

Look at the sold listings copper, it's far from a freak result. If it's a cartwheel, it will sell. ;)

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Funny thing is I have noticed buyers picking out cartwheels from rumage boxes myself , even the ones in the poorest condition sell for £1 or so , I am not sure why these buyers want  vast collections of low grade cartwheels , personally i would run a mile if someone wanted to show me his collection of low grade cartwheels .

Take all sorts I surpose , surely they cannot be buying them as an investment .

There again you often find that the thing nobody considers as an investment turns out to be the best investment.

Certainly anything marketed as a "good investment" immediately raises my suspition that it will not be a good investment

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On 5/10/2016 at 11:55 PM, mrbadexample said:

I think you'd be surprised Peter. I see even worn, beat-to-hell examples selling so wouldn't be surprised to see that go for more than scrap. Look at this for example. :o

I've just read the item description "good - high grade". The seller is a complete and utter moron! 

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On 5/11/2016 at 0:43 PM, copper123 said:

Funny thing is I have noticed buyers picking out cartwheels from rumage boxes myself , even the ones in the poorest condition sell for £1 or so , I am not sure why these buyers want  vast collections of low grade cartwheels , personally i would run a mile if someone wanted to show me his collection of low grade cartwheels .

Take all sorts I surpose , surely they cannot be buying them as an investment .

There again you often find that the thing nobody considers as an investment turns out to be the best investment.

Certainly anything marketed as a "good investment" immediately raises my suspition that it will not be a good investment

I think it's the word "cartwheel" that sets 'em off. :rolleyes:

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