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Coinery

Edward II Canterbury Penny Class 11a2

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£22 delivered...quite pleased with that, a nice quality flan. I was particularly interested in this one because of the distinctive reverse die (rim fragment punched into die, and interesting O in CANTOR - probably a C punched twice [normally and reversed to form an O of sorts - the C overlies it quite nicely using software]), and also for the possible punctuation mark after HYB? Apparently there is a Canterbury variety that has said punctuation, anyone for a vote on this one? It would've very much looked like it had the coin been slightly more worn, and the mark flattened somewhat????? Clogged, maybe, cruddy die??? In the exploded view it looks a little more shallow, though it's actually only just below the height of the letters. It looks bolder if you look at the full coin image here.

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Nice find! I don't think the 'punctuation mark' is intended. Perhaps a rough made blank before striking?

If you look around your expanded clips you see much evidence for this!

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A lot of the stops/no stops of even modern coinage are spurious it's true...would be interesting to see the coin that Withers used to mark this punctuated Canterbury variety. Makes me wonder whether it might be a flattened example of the raised dot I have in this coin?

I wonder if they used a coin from the North collection for this? Anyone for a quick browse in SCBI 39 for me? He couldn't have had too many Canterbury Class 11s around, maybe I can match dies?

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On 22/1/2016 at 11:34 AM, Coinery said:

A lot of the stops/no stops of even modern coinage are spurious it's true...would be interesting to see the coin that Withers used to mark this punctuated Canterbury variety. Makes me wonder whether it might be a flattened example of the raised dot I have in this coin?

I wonder if they used a coin from the North collection for this? Anyone for a quick browse in SCBI 39 for me? He couldn't have had too many Canterbury Class 11s around, maybe I can match dies?

nice penny !! I tried to see if this variety is reported on the SCBI 39 but nothing ... and honestly I don't think it could be considered as a punctuation mark 

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I'm thinking the same thing to be honest, but stick to the idea that a more worn example could elude to it!

Many thanks for taking a look in the good book for me. I don't have this one catalogued as punctuated in my own notes...I think I'll be leaving it that way, but would love to see the coin/coins that the variety was/were recorded from! :) 

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