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Paulus

Predict The Grade (again)

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As previously, I invite anyone interested to have a stab at predicting what grades CGS will assign to this batch of coins. Or, if you spot any varieties, or possible reasons for rejection, please state them.

They are at the Grading Level II stage at the moment.

Thanks to anyone who takes part!

Coin A - 1899 LXII Crown

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Coin B - 1707 Half Crown

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Coin C - 1911 Proof Half Crown

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Coin D - 1911 Proof Florin

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Coin G - 1911 Proof Shilling

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Coin H - 1674 Sixpence (last one)

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I will have a go but I have never been much good at guessing CGS grades.

My last coin took almost two months to move from Level II to Grade available (Encapsulation pending). So I guess we won't be getting the answers soon.

1899 crown: CGS 75 (has this been dipped before?)

1707 halfcrown: CGS 25

1911 halfcrown: CGS 88

1911 florin: CGS 88

1902 florin: CGS 80

1736 shilling: CGS 45

1911 shilling: CGS 85

1674 sixpence CGS 35

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1899 crown: CGS 80


1707 halfcrown: CGS 35


1911 halfcrown: CGS 88


1911 florin: CGS 88


1902 florin: CGS 85


1736 shilling: CGS 45


1911 shilling: CGS 85


1674 sixpence CGS 45



You have some cracking coins there Paulus.

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Yes nice coins !

Particularly like the Anne halfcrown.

cheers

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At a quick glance I get

a- EF light edge damage

b-GF/nvf

c-A-unc or unc

d-same

E about fdc

f-GVF

G-unc

H-nvf/vf

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I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?

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I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?

I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior.

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I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?

I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior.

Yes I'd expect the 1911 to be more toned than that.

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Not been about Paul for a few days ,but having sent coins to CGS myself were these part of the same batch ?.

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All in the same batch sent to CGS yes, by far the longest processing time so far, 7 weeks and counting

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Only ask as some looked chopped and some just normal backgrounds with different lighting.

Just something i am learning and wondered if they were the same batch why they didnt do them all the same ?.

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Only ask as some looked chopped and some just normal backgrounds with different lighting.

Just something i am learning and wondered if they were the same batch why they didnt do them all the same ?.

That's a good spot Pete, the coins were all submitted at the same time, the only obviously different background for me is for the last 3 coins, why, I have no idea!

What do you mean by 'chopped'?

I actually think they have done a better-than-normal-for-them job of photographing this batch!

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No expert and just having a guy taking pictures of some of mine in slabs and raw again today.

He altered the background of the obv and rev so they were on one picture combined without any difference in background colour.

As an example your pictures of A and E of your posts.

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I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?

I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior.

Yes I'd expect the 1911 to be more toned than that.

I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?

I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior.

Yes I'd expect the 1911 to be more toned than that.

As you all know , I now have a thing about toning :wacko:

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That's a good spot Pete, the coins were all submitted at the same time, the only obviously different background for me is for the last 3 coins, why, I have no idea!

I suspect that they all used the same background. The appearance of the background is dependent on the colour and reflectivity of the subject, so the duller the coin - the lighter the background will appear.

Edited by Nick

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Agreed, I found it impossible to photo my gold plated penny and get the same background colour, it just goes instantly black because of the reflectivity.

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1899 crown: CGS 80

1707 halfcrown: No idea

1911 halfcrown: CGS 88

1911 florin: CGS 88

1902 florin: CGS 82

1736 shilling: No idea

1911 shilling: CGS 82

1674 sixpence No idea

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The results are in - and no rejects!

Some very close / spot-on guesses

Here's the grades assigned

1899 crown: CGS 70 finest known (dies 2E)

1707 halfcrown: CGS 25

1911 halfcrown: CGS 92

1911 florin: CGS 85

1902 florin: CGS 82

1736 shilling: CGS 40 (new variety M over M in M.B. on reverse)

1911 shilling: CGS 91

1674 sixpence CGS 50

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Did you expect the 1899 to get finest known? A nice surprise if not!! :)

Some cracking grades there.

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The results are in - and no rejects!

Some very close / spot-on guesses

Here's the grades assigned

1899 crown: CGS 70 finest known (dies 2E)

1707 halfcrown: CGS 25

1911 halfcrown: CGS 92

1911 florin: CGS 85

1902 florin: CGS 82

1736 shilling: CGS 40 (new variety M over M in M.B. on reverse)

1911 shilling: CGS 91

1674 sixpence CGS 50

Nice one.

A fantastic little nest egg which you can enjoy. :)

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Hat off paul its good when they come back as you expected them to be graded and better still if graded higher.

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