clogs, die faults, et al.

[terrysoldpennies 691]

9 hours ago, davidrj said:

here's what he wrote

mine appears to be the barred 5 he describes.

It's the 1920 filled 2 that he shows 3 stages of fill for, he also lists a filled 2 for 1921 but no illustration

From Gouby,s  site       Terry

[RChris 3]

This one's different again......

 

 

[davidrj 194]

Interesting. Looks like we have a clear progression of die damage in our combined examples

 

[RChris 3]

And my 1920 for comparison with other previously illustrated.

 

[bhx7 222]

Came across this nice unusual error. Nothing exceptional but different. 1962 Penny

[bhx7 222]

Another couple of shots from different angles..

[davidrj 194]

I don't think we can put this down to recycled shell casings. Just very poor quality control of blanks - there are lamination flaws congruent with the brassy streaks on this 1936 penny

[mrbadexample 985]

Any thoughts on this double florin?

[Paulus 1,942]

Roman I so used to be 1887!

[mrbadexample 985]

Well, that's a start Paul. I didn't realise that all the other years had Arabic 1s. There is a bit of damage close to where the 7 should be: do you think this is post mint?

[Rob 3,002]

yep

 

[Nordle11 564]

Yep post mint

[mrbadexample 985]

I wish I knew how you were so sure. I'm not disputing it, but the numeral seems quite cleanly removed. Notwithstanding the damage, which to me doesn't seem to be entirely in the right place for a missing 7. What can you two see that I can't?

[Rob 3,002]

You gave the answer. There is damage around where the 7 should be. Any coin struck from a die with only 18 8 would have perfectly smooth fields at that point because the number wouldn't have been punched in. It is also highly unlikely that such a coin would have entered circulation, not impossible, but very unlikely. You would expect it to be EF or better, or alternatively lower grade in appearance on account of having been lightly struck, not from wear.

[davidrj 194]

Not as pronounced as on other dates discussed previously, but here's a 1931 penny with missing waves

Can we now stop calling "missing waves" as true varieties and recognise them as simple die fills in area of the design most likely to act as a pinch point for any excess gease to collect.

[Nordle11 564]

Agreed, however tell that to whoever bought the 1934 from the Workman collection for £500  

[davidrj 194]

On 11/05/2016 at 7:49 PM, Nordle11 said:

Agreed, however tell that to whoever bought the 1934 from the Workman collection for £500  

I was watching this one, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162079854220?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT went for £205

[Nordle11 564]

2 hours ago, davidrj said:

I was watching this one, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162079854220?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT went for £205

I was the underbidder

It was at 50 when I put 200 down, I figured it would get up to 100 odd which isn't all that bad considering it was actually a very nice 1934 in itself, and added an extra 100 because of the missing waves. I did wonder if someone on here nabbed it.

[PWA 1967 1,841]

Well if they did Matt you didnt do them any favours 

[Nordle11 564]

No I suppose not, although they stopped me from winning it so they got what they deserved löl

[Nordle11 564]

This thread reminds me actually I picked up a nice filled 2 on a 1920, I'll grab some pictures when I can. The filled part is actually higher than the digit.

[bhx7 222]

I know you have been looking for one for a while. Looking forward to seeing the pics.

[davidrj 194]

A 1922 penny with both twos filled

[Nordle11 564]

On 12.6.2016 at 5:26 PM, davidrj said:

A 1922 penny with both twos filled

Nice! I missed that post, good find.

Here's the filled 1920 I was on about. Not a bad grade either.

[davidrj 194]

Another penny on a streaky flan with congruent lamination flaws, this time a scarce BP1879Cb F98