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1 hour ago, kai1998inc said:Here is something that isn’t seen too often. This is part of a set that would have had 2 loops on the back and would’ve slid along wires (similarly to an abacus I guess). There are not many around, and even less with the loops still attached.
Hoping to get my hands on some more in a few weeks, will update the thread when they come in.
oh I see now ...I understand the counting teaching ....I did wonder why the solder was on the back
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1 hour ago, kai1998inc said:There aren’t too many that I’m aware of, but a handful - perhaps 10.
A big thank you to Larry and others who have kept this thread updated regularly with fresh material.
thank you Kai , so far it has been a lot of fun. Likely not the correct place for the thread as I have said but to have it at least opens the possibility of others getting engaged with this part of the history of coins. I just find them novel and engaging myself and I hope it helps us find other new things out about them. Finding Thomas Engelen through Gunter and yourself as a younger collector together with Copper and a few others have kept me going. So thanks to you all
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51 minutes ago, copper123 said:I surpose rarity puts a lot off, who wants to wait five years for a set you want off ebay when we live in a "I want it now " society and people simply expect everything delivered at the push of a button.
yes I suspect that is the riddle of the collector in general. I have to admit that when I start collecting something , as a child fossils, then minerals and later antiquities I always want there to be a research and development of my mind aspect. Even as I paint I keep most of my work dated in order to see how my mind develops over time. I find the instant gratification society difficult to process and it is my firm belief that many younger people are turning back to old ways in lots of aspects of their lives. It starts with vinyl records now it is is cassettes and I think the same will happen with food as people become tired of processed food and instant meals.
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2 hours ago, copper123 said:I would say its worth £120 minimum there again it take two to start a bidding war.
A couple of the silver coins don't look to clever but as a whole its a great set
I will have to carry on picking them up as singles :0)
I have taken a good look and whilst there is some loss of coating on some of the silver coins there is no wear or damage so I'm pretty sure it is a set. I would say the box would be about that for a full set a great find . It will help the research.
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I think on another thread the case was mentioned , but I am afraid I cannot remember which. Fascinating the lengths people will go to create and cover up some activities. I live in Durham so it all felt very close ....not too often that coins get headlines ..
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The 65 is an interesting farthing especially the numerous over punching on the 5 . I've enjoyed getting to know them in the past few years. Characterful I suppose your could call them. I think I do have some 8 or 8's I will look them out for you.
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15 hours ago, copper123 said:Wow, great , a much rarer set than 1902 and 1887 sets are much more common ,wish i could afford to buy sets like that in the original box it must have cost a pretty penny
no it was £50 I think it was just down to luck to be honest and searching constantly . should arrive today so I will have to check if it is or is not a set. I have been been chatting with Thomas about the coatings and I wonder if in party, it may be the reaction to the metal of the boxes or exposure to variable amounts of air and moisture even inside the box. Or even temperature if we think the coatings are tin or alloys of.
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ok WELL IT SHOULD ARRIVE TOMORROW .. I Have been at a conference all week so it is at the post office
This is Lauers round box box number 4225 unseen by Rogers RRR* I will have to check if Gunter had one : The contents appear to be a full set of the Diamond Jubilee 1897 : Winged Cherub with stork design
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On 4/24/2023 at 7:01 PM, copper123 said:Would have been fantastic with a few original coins in there
WHAT THE BOX i WON?
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I found something very exciting the other day which I will post very soon it is bizarre sometimes you can be reading about something rare and it suddenly appears ....ANTICIPATION !!! MARKETING TEASER
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On 4/23/2023 at 9:12 AM, Sword said:It might have been the fear of criticism or ridicule rather than conscience.
I think he used to be a member of the forum and maybe still is but I have not seen him post anything the past year of so
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12 hours ago, mrbadexample said:I've always thought torcoins was a complete shyster. Exorbitant prices for genuine coins, but this does take the biscuit.
that is ridiculously obvious
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Books and references:
Please list any books you use to identify or study any aspect of toy coins;gaming tokens; miniatures . It would be helpful share this with new collectors.
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To reiterate my apology. I now know the new owner of the box lid above US Dollar and I'm sure we will have better information on it soon.
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Not that it's likely that fake makers will read our topic , but I suppose we risk advising them on what to change in the next batch to bake .
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I know everyone says it is a waste of time reporting fake coins on ebay but I do try to do a few a week .....I suppose it is akin to picking up litter when walking the dogs
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Is it possible they use a laser digital scanner to scan the original coin then create the die from that ? in which case the same imperfections might be copied into the laser cut die. If that is possible ???
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Thomas Engelen has told myself and Kai that he has amended his book on Toy Cardboard coins to include a few new ones that have come form the contacts within this group so thank you to him and to Kai and myself I suppose for offering up new examples. I will try find the link and post it again. It is free on the Newman Numismatics Portal and is a fascinating read.
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This "lid" of a box? was posted recently by Rex Coins and Pat has given me permission to share it with you. It seems to be pressed tin or possibly copper alloy gilded and it makes me wonder if it may in fact be a Lauer box for the American series. Or some other issue. I would be grateful for any thoughts . And my apologies to anyone that bought it for listing it here I just thought it was an important object
thanks to REX Coins and to Pat
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12 hours ago, DrLarry said:it is #430 section 11 copies of Lauer : L Gar Lauer attributed posibibly to an unknown english manufacturer (Hawkins 1960) brass also reported in white plated metal unseen by Rogers #430 a .
I note that there is a touch of corrosion on the reverse could you put a magnet to is see it it is brass? that looks like rust
actually we should call this the Mr Burns sixpence from the Simpsons
No point having toy coins if you cannot have a bit of fun
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Well yes , Rogers when he was writing back in the 90's thought there were maybe 20 collectors world wide. I know we are a little niche but the depth of the engraving and the mass production (minting !) they have a wonderful quality of design and execution ( well the Lauer ones at least) And we should be proud that ur connection with Germany in the 19thC meant that the UK market was perhaps the largest one. There are certainly a lot more variations in our currency types from the George III type through the young heads and Jubilee heads. they are like puppies ....little bundles of joy LOL