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Gunter Aschoff has very kindly sent me a PDF copy of the book and I have skimmed over its 324 pages and if has done a great deal of work on the German toy money and he had the most fantastic collection of boxes for toy money which must have taken him years to acquire. Apart from one mention of the coins by D and Co and passing references to the variety of the european coinage including our own by Lauer and others there is nothing in his catalogue . I will will ask him if he collected them but dd not write on the subject. I will try translate any of the references made to the manufacturers and the history with his permission. It may be that the collector in Switzerland intends a broader approach . The work by Mr Aschoff extends the few pages on German Toy money issues by several hundred pages when compared to Rogers. Sadly it is out of print but as a reference to anyone researching that branch is an essential read. I will keep you posted .
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Gary Lineker (moved)
DrLarry replied to copper123's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
I am sorry that it hit your mother hard but it is a simple reality that any medical intervention involving a vaccine against any pathogen will , considering the millions if not billions inoculated, have a negative impact on a few percent. The human immune system is too varied to create something that is 100% perfect. Covid took many millions and likely many more if we had not developed the herd immunity which the vaccines provided. There will always be a small number who choose not to be given vaccine and for those they have to face their own conscience to themselves and other for whom they represent a vector of potential infection. If you are a climate change denialist or at least do not believe it to be anthropocentric again there are millions who can sit alongside you and I am sure you all can debate on global platforms talking to each other , perhaps in the 90's you would have all had a greater platform. But I think it best considering the overwhelming scientific opinion that we have significantly contributed to it that the platforms are reduced for that globally marginal group. As a Geologist I have observed eons of climate changes and would rather we take cautious approaches to our destructive habits, but if humans are reduced in total number that is fine (by me) but there is a whole world full of other species I'd rather not see reduced further by insane human activity. the debate on these issues I agree can enable people to make changes and perhaps the BBC have tried to enable the madness of the climate denialists over time to talk usually the outcome is the same we are to be kept on a track towards net zero if for no other reason that is it efficient to do so, like an insurance policy safety for the future. I would I think (personally) be willing to ring the BBC complaints line to record a complaint if they used valuable air time to give too much credibility to an unqualified individual giving their opinion without substantial evidence. I accept that you may not be a climate denialist, or an anti vax or anti net zero contributor and may be just making those as examples of the kind of debate examples you might like to see on the BBC, my apologies if I have argued that you are. -
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DrLarry replied to Kipster's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
there is a useful thread on half penny varieties elsewhere but you may have to be a member -
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DrLarry replied to copper123's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
personally I have not watched a game of football since I was 9 the economics of it are super inflated and it lost appeal to me. It's economic model makes and a person who has a little chat about it, I suppose, must also get paid well perhaps too much..... sure... but I know there are millions of people who like watching it so have to pay for their enjoyment as their right to my taxation. But that is just normal I have no children and have to contribute to many aspects of life to which I only indirectly benefit. I don't begrudge either it is all part of citizenship. So I suppose the half that dont share an opinion have to take the hit on the licence fee until such a time we decide on a different formula. But I doubt we will decide -
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DrLarry replied to copper123's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
I doubt there will be a consensus about the value for money that the license fee covers BBC TV , radio, and historically channel 4 (although a different model commercially) all make valuable contributions to my life at so many levels £12 a month seems a small amount to pay, I rarely give it a second thought. But I can see if you are a person who never watches anything on these TV stations or listens to any of the national or regional BBC radios it isn't good value for money. I would rather the issue of impartiality was not the main focus as I have said I would rather a person give analysis but that is not what people want. I cannot see that it is favour of government investigating many of the issues in a very independent way, although I accept there are some serious issues from the past for which it must accept culpability but there are many institutions that have to face much of their cultural norms. I suppose we all reflect our particular lifestyle in the choices we want to make using our money -
no just the Care brand sold in the pharmacy I also only use it to loosen fatty deposits with a Q tip
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I now have contact with Gunter Aschoff who wrote the German equivalent to Rogers and the conversation between us is going nicely. I will paste in his thoughts and hos interesting news of a potential new book from a swiss collector who he sold his entire collection to . Exciting news I think Hello Larry, I've always collected coins and eventually started collecting childrens coins . When, after 30 years of collecting, I had a lot of coins, I put them together in a catalogue. "Deutsches Kinderspielgeld° coins, bills and cans. Published in 2008 (Battenberg). When there was no longer any demand after a few years, the publisher stopped production and the book is no longer available. A large collector from Switzerland then later ( 2022) bought my complete collection. He now wants to combine his and my collection and digitally distribute a new catalog with further findings. That should happen in a few weeks. It might be good for you to wait for this print. But maybe I can do it for you too nor send my catalog digitally. Balmberger and Lauer are described in great detail in the catalogue. Lauer has not coined for all European countries. As far as I know, there were 12 countries, and he coined a particularly large number for the English kingdom. You can find this information in detail in the catalogues. Gunter Aschoff. Viersen is located on the Niederhein near Düsseldorf (30km or Cologne 60km away)
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I am sure this has been mentioned somewhere in this thread but on the occasions when I have used acetone I have found that it leaves an unpleasant iridescence as a residue on bronze and copper. Similar to the fake toning discussed on other threads. just my own experiences.
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A purely selfish move to take images and catalogue the few hundred I have and the hard task to identify these crazy characters has motivated me to start a thread so that some others could join in on my confusion with these illegal entities which now have their own fan club, admittedly mostly the American Market. But I know many of you have some, if not a lot, and thought you might help me out. The Only reference I have are some past papers from the BNS and a book by R Coleman and I am in need of help finding a book??/ by Atkins that the americans are always referring to . Hope it's OK to press on ?
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it is a beautifully made HOLE the sharpness of those edges it does not look as if it went into circulation which I am sure would have worn or broken off the exit ....nice example of a shilling is it a YORK ? what has it pierced through ? I can see an E or B but nothing else
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I think I have read that at the time there was no agreed standard in continental europe for the value of precious metals so if you had a mind too you could undercut for economic and political reasons the currency of another country. The value for silver was often times greater on the continent and it meant that silver was being taken to the mainland .
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forgive my stupidity but what stops a person clipping the coin after the stamp ? could you not clip your own then shove a hole through the middle? it doesn't look very "official" that hole ! fascinating bit of the story thanks a lot .
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thanks for that Jerry
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I have never seen any with these checks ...although I saw a charles II shilling with a Key countermark. I see a lot of copper stamped with marks that look official nd otherwise . Thanks . Again I am still surprised there is so much hammered silver around
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I am surprised there is so much around 3 centuries on then?
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Has Ebay changed its closing process ?
DrLarry replied to secret santa's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I have noticed that the timing changes or gets "locked" and is different from the app and the pc in the past 6 months I just put it down to age ....mine not ebay's -
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DrLarry replied to copper123's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
Yes I am sure you are right. Coming from two of the categories of difference it is often the case that I feel safer (yet often irritated) by those from one or both those communities. Seeking out similarity is an easy option but isn't one that I personally prefer. It is like reading an enlightening book when invited into a culture or "tribe" I am unaccustomed to it is refreshing. Of course it is mostly as a guest in these new spaces. It took me 10 years to be part of township life in South Africa but I am glad of it. and likely feel an ease there more than my own I personally find that my own white british lower economic culture the most difficult either to understand or integrate in , as such one lives a life of "fish out of water". Disability reduces an ability to put in practice decades of education and would migrate to my home in the South but there are economic reasons why that cannot be achieved. Humans are "unusual" creatures for me it is unlikely I will ever fully understand them. -
Anyone have any knowledge of the fake copper Queen Anne farthings made in the 18th C ? there seems to be an interesting debate about whether the Anne Augusta ones were contemporary or not? I think I have one pattern that is original and another which looks pretty dodgy. There is a fascinating account about the copper coinage , especially the farthing, and the stories around at the time of their immense value... a good read this morning
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Did counterfeiters do the same with coin weights? I assume these are standards issued by the mint ...anyone know anything of the history of coin weights ?
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I found the counterfeit half crown ...below ....I often find I collect then sometimes find it difficult to place certain coins in y collection so they get assigned by some other system (random in my strange head) ...still I knew I would find its hiding place eventually . It weighs 10.59 grams a lead dull surface lustre no edge inscription . I must have been a hard thing for merchants and others to keep up with changing currency ...I suppose clever counterfeiters took advantage of changes in currency and released coin by Royal mint very soon after before the people become familiar with it . This one is obviously a cast copy
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Gary Lineker (moved)
DrLarry replied to copper123's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
yes I have also enjoyed it . Whatever a persons inclination on these difficult issues there is never a need for animosity or derision. I think the BBC have to do some soul searching and as various reporters said yesterday on the Media Show the issues around impartiality have become weaponized which is a shame. Perhaps we are just more aware of the issues and have woken up to a world full of potential hazards from the endless stream of true and false information and the battle for supremacy over social media. I find I personally prefer analysis rather than impartiality and this approach is somewhat exhausting. I just think that the expression of thought provoking point of view, whether I agree with it or not, tends to insist on making me work harder to understand something. -
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DrLarry replied to copper123's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
I was trying to do some internet search for the likely many 1000's of fascist supporters who migrated into Germany from the various european and southern african countries. But I sure the number that decided on that journey are small by comparison. And of course the impact of Nazi germany's programmes did not just focus on the Jewish peoples I am sure many others could not escape because they fell into a category unable to afford the cost of migration ....instead ended in the death camps also -
possibly although Lauer did focus on a few coins that were well out of date by the time they were made. The George III crown was still in circulation a lot and less so the victorian Crown apparently so he included that in the 1880's sets. The spanish ones are also very confused. But certainly I hope I might learn something from this book by Aschoff on the longer Lauer Tradition and dates of these spiel marks
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DrLarry replied to copper123's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
Michael Rosen has such a marvelous skill with language and words....he can unpick things with clarity...thank you for adding that -
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DrLarry replied to copper123's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
it is a very difficult subject for many creating problems from all sides . There is little shortage of housing and many empty houses in the North East ....but I am not sure there would be much welcome here it is somewhat closed community towards people of difference