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Thomas Engelen has told myself and Kai that he has amended his book on Toy Cardboard coins to include a few new ones that have come form the contacts within this group so thank you to him and to Kai and myself I suppose for offering up new examples. I will try find the link and post it again. It is free on the Newman Numismatics Portal and is a fascinating read.
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This "lid" of a box? was posted recently by Rex Coins and Pat has given me permission to share it with you. It seems to be pressed tin or possibly copper alloy gilded and it makes me wonder if it may in fact be a Lauer box for the American series. Or some other issue. I would be grateful for any thoughts . And my apologies to anyone that bought it for listing it here I just thought it was an important object thanks to REX Coins and to Pat
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actually we should call this the Mr Burns sixpence from the Simpsons No point having toy coins if you cannot have a bit of fun
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it is always useful to post close up pictures if you find anything unusual about these toy coins , more often than not a simple explanation becomes clear . I think the question I asked about if there were two obverse portraits is more likely simply the result of a slightly deeper strike in the solid line bust and a weaker one in the vignette type . I noticed latter there is a reduced impression of the border dentils so likely with a slightly harder pressing the result would have been the same.
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Ok then it is the 430 they are classed as Rare one R the iron ones are RRR I have not yet taken a good look at mine to see if there are any variations One small thing I have noticed with the ones I have is that the alloy is quite reactive and copper begins to build up a little so keep them dry and clean
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it is #430 section 11 copies of Lauer : L Gar Lauer attributed posibibly to an unknown english manufacturer (Hawkins 1960) brass also reported in white plated metal unseen by Rogers #430 a . I note that there is a touch of corrosion on the reverse could you put a magnet to is see it it is brass? that looks like rust
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Gothic Florin ...I sadly do not have the rare example #413 a the white plated Brass , mine are all iron #413 there is a third #414 in which the word NURNBERG replaces COUNTER
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I think here may be one variation in the portrait of Victoria on the Gothic Florin (but is this just again blockage) The shoulder truncation on these two are as a "vignette" as compared with the very distinct line seen on all others of the 10 I have
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Yes its often interesting how the ones with no coating show no sign of having been played with. I think the coated must just disappear to a powder or as suggested in tin becomes a grey allotrope
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No its a known one I have a few it's one of the Gar lauer imitations . Ugly sixpence I call them
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DrLarry replied to 1949threepence's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
that is just ridiculous I suppose it is the same debate we were having the other day on toning in silver coins and that awful blue they get by chemically altering the surface. -
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DrLarry replied to 1949threepence's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
How did it turn from a pink to a brown? it is the same coin same blemishes at least -
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there are about 10 bank notes presumably a ten shilling and 1 pound
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and the coins for the Martins Bank set
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there is also a complete green paying in book...sixpence for scale MARTINS BANK LIMITED
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Reading through Thomas's book has spurred me on to catalogue the toy coins of card and plastic. I don't have a lot but pick them up now and again for the fun of it. Here are a set I cannot find listed in Rogers and because they are part plastic (not the notes and the cheque book deposit book ) they are not in his book. The must date from at least 1957 as the date written in the cheque book is this date. They are quite early for plastic used since about 1949 and have educational value. The half penny, penny, and threepence in copper the sixpence, shilling, florin and half crown in silver At least two issues are likely an older Green paying in book and cheque book in one and the later Blue version. I cannot see any clue to the dates other than that mentioned HELP PLEASE
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DrLarry replied to 1949threepence's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Yes I can imagine you collectors that have been collecting for years would have a hell of a problem cataloguing. Even and only after 8 years collecting it has grown to a point that if I buy nothing else I have started listing and photographing now just so the collection has some reference points. I could say that I would not mind "beyond the grave" if the rarer varieties were mis sold, even for the charity, but I will still be annoyed to think it might happen in advance of sudden demise. I have to admit I do find the process of sorting and listing coins for sale very tedious, even if it helps. It is the sheer number that is so daunting. But this conversation might spur me on to just get rid. -
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DrLarry replied to ozjohn's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
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DrLarry replied to mrbadexample's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Here is a new variety I'd bet none of us new about https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394561585577 GREAT BRITAIN UK 1862 HALF PENNY VARIETY" 8" in DATE IS TO RIGHT OF LIGHTHOUSE I find it hard to think the 8 can ever get to the left -
if you want a free copy of the book by Thomas Engelen on cardboard coins register on the link below and search for cardboard coins. It is fascinating and astonishing sometimes that these paper coins survive and often in such wonderful condition. It connects through games and educational sets the learners with coinage when coins wee important and essential in lives. I suppose these days you just give the kids a credit card ( old fashioned) or more realistically a phone and it begins to control the lives from year dot to death. Welcome to the Internet Archive, one of the largest digital libraries in the world and home of the history of the Web! We’re so glad you’ve decided to join our community of digital archivers from around the world. With your free account you can enjoy: 4.6 million books 6 million videos 14 million audio items (including 220,000 live music concerts) 580,000 software titles You also have the ability to leave reviews, connect with other patrons, and even upload your own material to the collections. Want to jump right in? Here’s a quick guide to using your account! As a 501c3 nonprofit dedicated to sustaining our digital history and culture for generations to come, we make all of our collections available for free. Your support is essential to helping the Archive survive, thrive, and grow—so if you find our resources useful, please chip in to help us ensure Universal Access to All Knowledge. Thanks for joining us, and enjoy the archive! The Internet Archive Team www.archive.org
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I heard back from Thomas about the coatings and the references are in the German Toy Coin book by Gunter Achoff here is his reply : Coatings by Lauer : Lauer produced over a long period of time & varied the coatings meanwhile. You ll find a good guidance in the “Deutsches Kinderspielgeld” with most produced were Uncoated (“Natur”), or coated with tin or nickel, more rarely silver. The “golden” coins are mostly made of brass, if coated with messing. See series 24, 26, 28, 30 and 32 especially.
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these cardboard coins I found recently appear to be from the game "The Auctioneer " below. I had missed the reference in the book by Thomas Engelen
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interesting I always thought it was a humidity related issue thanks for that
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iron yes or zinc or this "white metal"
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