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Et tu Brute

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  1. In fact, the clipped one was a little less than 5 pounds, but the other a little more expensive, 14 pounds. It seemed better in the photo, the legends and mintmarks were legible and had more integrity. My problem is that here in Spain is difficult to get such pieces; I must buy online, on platforms like MA Shops or ebay. The fixed prices of nicer coins are sometimes really high, and I tend to think that if a nice coin is worth more than 80 or 100 pounds, it's OK to get a lower grade one in the 10-20 range, plus shipment. Unfortunately, I can't go to local shops or markets and get low grade hammered British coins from boxes for a few pounds.

    By the way, I would appreciate if you can recommend me some online stores/numismatics where to buy hammered British, especially Elizabeth I and James I.


  2. Thank to you all. I agree with you, it's nonsense to fake such worn out pieces. We beginners are over-cautious with fakes!

    Fist one has a lot of marks and little holes, but I think these are no bubbles, but signs of wear and perhaps of an aggressive cleaning. Second one... is barely a coin anymore. I think this is guaranty of authenticity.

    I have a lot of fun learning and classifying these low grade and relatively cheap coins; I can handle them with less care and am more fake-protected. Besides, although almost scrap, I appreciate them as historical items from a period and country that I admire. When i have more knowledge and confidence, I can by better pieces.


  3. Hello again. I'm purchasing some low grade elizabethan coins in order to learn and to study them, I would like also to distinguish fakes.

    Among them there are two 25mm coins, but I'm a bit concerned.

    Coin one is a sixpence, dated 1567, with rose and mintmark coronet. It weights about 2,7gr. At first sight I perceived a little strange color and gleam, but perhaps it's due to the way in which it was cleaned.

    Coin two puzzles me a bit more. It's highly damaged. Has a date 15...9, I can't see the mintmark (coronet?) and it's as large as a sixpence... but it weights only 2,1/2,2. It's very damaged, but it's not a very low weight for a sixpence?

    I don't know how common are fakes in elizabethan hammered, and I'm too green yet to spot them (except fantasy, very crude, etc). I have my doubts about these coins, but I don't see the point in faking such worn out, low grade and unattractive coins.

    Any comment would be really appreciate. Sorry again for my bad english.



  4. Hello to everyone!

    Now I have received an elizabethan Shilling. The seller cataloged it as 1601-2, Spink 2584. I'm doing my homework and I think this is not correct; the observe reads ELIZABETH with all the letters, and since it reads too ET instead of Z I believe that it is a 2nd issue (1560-1, Spink 2555). The zone of the mintmark is somewhat erased and I must train my eye, but I think it's compatible with the martlet (I think I can see the tail of the bird). Am I correct?

    My coin reads AN'.FR'.ET'.HI'.REGINA and in other coins and books the legend is ANG  and HIB , I don't know if this is a common variation. At the moment I have Spink's Coins of England, 37th ed.

    Best regards!


  5. Thank you for your answer!

    Happy to hear that, I wish it were at least a genuine half groat, a coin that I want to own too. When received, I will post more details, the two dots/I's look interesting.

    Now I can search for a true groat.

    I really appreciate your help, thanks!

  6. Hi to all, I'm new in this forum. Sorry for my bad English.

    I have a little experience with greek and roman coins, but am an absolute beginner with British. As a fan of the works of Shakespeare, I'm very interested in elizabethan coinage. I have a penny, and have purchased a shilling on a reputable seller.

    But I think that perhaps I have committed a mistake; I have just purchased on ebay a groat without further research, and I fear that the coin can be fake, because the seller has some suspicious roman coins. I attach the seller's photo. According to description, weights 0'9g. (can be a mistake, that can't be a groat) and measures 17mm.

    I would really appreciate any comment about the coin. When I receive it, I can post more pictures. Thanks

    elizabethI groat.jpg