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I will have it Pete, will sort the payment tomorrow. ian

I would have bought more but birthdays and a car service to pay for this month. Will check the finances at the end of the month and maybe go back for a second bite.

Early bird catches the worm Pete?

Not me, I asked for it but it had already gone.

I am sure I will be also. I don't imagine I will get them until sometime next week, so something to look forward to and another chance to rearrange the collection to make room for them.

Very interesting history. Any idea where the "coin sized nickled models" would have ended up. Are these test pieces normally destroyed or are they in some vault somewhere?

Yes spoke to him, nice chap. I can see me spending more money with him in the future.

Just ordered them from Dave, wanted two coins and ended up buying six. Its only money, quite literally.

PM sent thank you Pete

As you say a piece of social history. I hope it gave the poor bugger who was holding it in the bottom of a muddy trench some comfort. I also hope he survived and went on to live a long life.

No need to go on eBay for it. Boots sell it in small bottles for a pound or two. Otherwise find your nearest hairdresser supplies company, they will sell it in five litre containers.

Thanks Matt, I must learn to line up my colons a bit better. Ian

I am trying to identify the dies used on this 1921 penny but not having much luck. Would you mind casting an eye over it and letting me know what you think please. Could I also ask if you can point out the indicators to me. Apologies if its not a good quality photo, I had to use my mobile phone Thank you

Thank you Santa, two very useful belated Christmas presents, your hard work is appreciated

I have just clicked on the link and it is telling me that it does not exist

I have a theory on this and it may well be wrong. I think it may be an apprentices test piece. Made oversize as they learn the process of manufacture. Other types of apprentices do similar things but in reverse, furniture makers make half size models to test them. However as a coin is small to begin with it would make sense for the apprentice to make it larger when learning. The double stamping would not have stretched it, if it had Britannia would be double struck with one figure smaller than the other whearas the reverse is clearly rotated by a few degrees. There is more rotation the further away from the centre hence less error at the point where the trident touches the leg. Also both sides would have been effected if double stamping had made it bigger. it is possibly thinner because they somehow used a standard size blank which would have had to have made slightly larger before being stamped. just a theory imo

There is no way that this has gone through a set of rollers. If it had the detail would be stretched. It would also no longer be flat. Rolling tends to curve metals as the pressure changes along the length of the item being rolled. Also the letters would be distorted

I don't think it has gone through rollers, it would be elongated or at least oval.

I would think if one is looking at coins as a long term investment then that person would need a combination of many things; knowledge of the subject, the money to make considered purchases and then be able to have that money tied up in something long enough to see the returns, and a large pinch of luck being in the right place at the right time to buy the right coins. If that person has all of that and possibly other traits I am not aware of then they should go for it. Personally I do not see coin collecting as a money making investment for the future, a £70 coin will probably not be worth huge amounts even after 20 years. However I do believe there is the potential to make short term profits by looking at the trends and buying at the right price along with a bit of luck. Just my opinion, and please do not take it in any other way. Keep enjoying the hobby

£27 what a result, wish I would have spotted it.

IMO it is. The tide is below the junction where the legs meet. hope I have that right

Pete, Arrived safely today, very pleased with it. Its a cracking coin. Wish the rest of my collection was as good Ian

I should clarify and add that I was carrying the capsule around for a couple of days in my bag so there was probably more movement than if it was in a drawer or something similar. However it did annoy me and I will make sure in future that I have a snug fit rather than a loose fit. (No double entendre intended)

Being new to coin capsules the only problem I have found with them and it is a lesson learnt for me which is to get the right size capsule for the coin. I had a coin in a capsule that was probably 1mm bigger than the coin. This small movement was enough for a high point on the coin to rub against the inside of the capsule and remove some of the tone. It put me off capsules and now I put my coins in 2 x 2 flips.

Yes please Pete.