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  1. your Roses are a lovely colour , looks good and a great chill out spot.
  2. If its a girl I definitely don't fancy it .
  3. terrysoldpennies

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    That really is the big question most of us have asked, how are they formed . Freeman himself at first thought that the 1897 dot was so regular and round that he considered it might be an identity mark, as can be seen on some of the Australian coins, and so he gave it its own F no. F147 and later found out about a crack on an example in the vicinity of the dot. I wonder if the initial crack on the die has a second side crack appear off at an angle to it , maybe to small to show on the coin , but allows a small corner piece to brake away where the two join and leave a hole , this I guess would be triangular in shape, but I think it would start to fill in at the corners rounding off the triangular shape into more rounded hole which would then transferred onto the coin more like a dot. many of the dots I have found are irregular in shape, see below. As to whether the perfectly round dots are created by the engineers trying to extend the life of the dies , i'm as much in the dark as you.
  4. terrysoldpennies

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    Is this the page your looking for dot pennies - British Coin Forum - Predecimal.com.url 1897 penny double dot serifs - Confirmed unlisted Varieties. - British Coin Forum - Predecimal.com.url
  5. So you left the two easy ones till last.
  6. terrysoldpennies

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    On the 1897 F147 dot type I have never personally seen an example with a crack, but Freeman mentions that an example has been seen . So I assume that an example showing a crack is rare.
  7. Ive used the Copper wire pick myself, it works really well and does not scratch the surface at all.
  8. yes its an F21, well done
  9. terrysoldpennies

    More Pennies

    I think your right Richard , there really are lots of types .
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    More Pennies

    I see that the rotated 9 type you've posted Ian is a 15 tooth example , I also have a similar one with 14 teeth , the bottom one of the group of three Blakey , is the raised up 9 type that your after, the one below , its the 14 tooth type listed by Gouby. There are two other 14 tooth types that ive come across , the bottom one in the group of three pictured has the normal digit spacing with the slightly rotated 9, and the third type on the last coin below, which has the 9 and 8 very close like the raised 9 type, but has all the digits in a straight line , its not listed by Gouby
  11. This one is on an F33 , so unusual for this combination of dies.
  12. That is true about the 1861/62 date positioning of the last digit', but some extremely interesting ones do turn up, and I think this to be one .
  13. There's a narrower type as well, it I think will be in Michael Gouby's next update as BP1895Ba perhaps you could confirm that Pete.
  14. Maybe it was an 8 that was used on another coin that was in production at the same time in the mint for another country, and accidently found its way into the box of fonts used in the production of the British one penny ?
  15. Thanks for that clarification Pete, and not sure as to the rarity of each type.
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