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  1. AU is not without controversy - I see your point.
  2. https:///coinimages/2026/04100933/05728398_large.1698.jpg?v=1549156610276
  3. https:///TrueView/28436102_800x600.jpg And this is my 1701-
  4. I just posted my 1689 half crown- it is a 53 graded by PCGS
  5. I consider the 1698 to be the most available date of the series. Your example looks well struck. My concern is over the quality of the fields and that could be just in the image and not the coin. I would not be in the MS camp- the thread captures the problems of trying to grade from an image
  6. As for the 1689 - if that was graded by NGC, I suspect it may grade 50- possibly 53 given the detail in Mary's hair- Again, lustre would be critical with this coin as well.
  7. The Sheldon scale and American grading in general is set to a different standard than UK grading. Lustre is a critical factor in terms of establishing a grade above EF45. Lustre is not just measured by reflectivity but the actual quality of the surfaces - especially the fields. There are pick up points to determine wear from circulation over that of a weak strike. Further, understanding dies varieties and determining whether a coin is a early or late die state example helps assessing a grade. There are mint state coins with less than satisfactory strikes- but that is how they were made. Perhaps the better and more satisfying term should be "as struck"- that seems to be used by some of the UK auction houses. Not all coins within the same series or even within the same grade are created equal. The coin should tell the story.
  8. Thanks Nick... That's about what I thought
  9. The grade will depend on Lustre. From the image, the lustre is difficult to determine. Based on some of the gold colour in the protected areas, the lustre could be decent but does it extend into the fields? The portrait looks pretty good. If there is lustre, NGC will likely grade it within the AU spectrum. If lustre is absent, then EF40-45. Best of luck with the submission.
  10. Just curious about the mintage and surviving population for this coin... I have not been able to locate separate mintage figures for the Laureate Head 6d. So my question is more about the surviving population, interest, rarity and valuation for this coin. Please share your thoughts
  11. There are many different things to consider here and there is just no simple answer... -Auction participation... The right collectors need to participate if auction results are going to be used as a market indicator -Demographics... Varieties are not common knowledge to common collectors. Further, there are fewer younger people that seem to connect with history, art and design and how that is memorialized on coinage. This is unfortunate. -Availability... How often do certain rarities appear on the market and think how condition plays a role in determining the hammer price. I suspect the overall copper market is okay but certain rare varieties will fluctuate given demand.
  12. The earlier George II shillings, especially those through 1729 are tougher to find in higher grades than those minted 10 years later. I have enjoyed collecting this series. My 1727 was bought about 12 years raw and submitted to NGC and it graded AU53. It has an original look and I am pleased with it. I don't recall seeing a GEM Unc. I don't think the series is overpriced for coins in the GVF and higher grade range.
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    US Grading vs UK Grading.....

    Good to read that there has been a vibrant discussion. As for the 1912 1/2 crown, the question of a possible strike thru was raised given the size and sharpness. I suppose it could be bag mark. It is not an MS coin so a 58 is the best day at a TPG and on the NGC side of the pond. The 1957 1/2 crown does show evidence of die clashing at the lower area that was circled. The area around the ear looks to be a lamination issue and the area below the eye is either a bag mark or some type of post mint hit from another object. The Victorian copper is die clashing... Nice looking obverse.
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