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PWA 1967

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  1. 4 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

    We come back to that thorny old question: in a year when proof sets were issued, how do you distinguish a VIP proof? If different dies were used, then it's easy, but if not...

    Its only easy if you know what to look for ,i know that sounds a bit daft but if you dont know the indicators like people didnt with the farthing ,your not going to find a genuine one ,unless its attributed correctly by the auctioneer.

    Obviously thats IF there are differences which i have been told in the past there is ,although being silver never took any interest and would not know what to look for myself 👍.

    If the St.James crown was one and people know it was who bid and wanted it for there own crown collection ,its the only reason i can think as to why it went so high as obviously rare with very few known ,especially not still in the sets.


  2. I must be missing something on these Crowns i know nothing about.

    One was in the Baldwin sale LOT 538  PF67 CAMEO £500 and was unsold without a bid ,so why someone would pay £6K for one a grade less i have no idea 😀.

    More i think about it and although still expensive maybe it was a 1953 VIP proof from the set and people knew the indicators which i have been told before are different ,like the Farthing and penny.

    I dont have a clue about crowns or silver but the only explanation i can come up with and although still expensive seems more reasonable for a crown collector who has know interest in the rest of the set and will be very few sold individually.


  3. On 8/11/2023 at 9:46 PM, Martinminerva said:

    Despite the awful photography of example 20, I'm convinced they're the same coin... Too many of the dings and scratches would seem to match up rather well - angle of lighting might account for why the deep dings on 21 seem much less deep and indistinct on 20. Plus of course the poor resolution and focus!

    Fairly moot point anyway, whether there are 20 or 21 recorded specimens (I'm sure there'll be a good few others out there as yet un-spotted), but the fact they appeared on Richard's site sequentially just alerted me to the potential of them being one and the same!

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    Yes its definitely the same coin ,i bought it after the Auction.


  4. Unfortunately the price difference in just a grade or two on most pennies determined by NGC are huge ,for the few collectors currently buying them.

    The 1839 PF66 for sale in "The Coinery auction " sold for £10,000 the last time it sold and at the time it was the highest grade.

    Now one is graded 67 (Maybe bought by the seller of this one) the one graded 66 has almost certainly lost its highest grade attraction.

    Unfortunately its not what we think the grade is but what NGC put on the label and if its high or the highest , there are a few collectors who will pay big money for them.

    Only my opinion but i have been watching the prices of NGC pennies for the last few years and ones graded really high or the highest can sell for daft money.

    Fortunately its only a few buyers though who will pay these high prices and what it does mean is the ones graded high but not really high 😀 ,we can buy for sensible money.

     


  5. 6 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

    were you doing the washing up when you posted this? I've never before seen an example of an 1860 PINNY...

    What it does show is how its often hard to determin a coin variety / type from a picture ,sellers pictures which were lightened show the detail much better.

    The E in Penny is complete even though it appears not to be on my picture.

     

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  6. One i bought a few months ago ,however have hit a brick wall trying to attribute as dont know if its been struck with a foreign coin or a token.

    The penny has been struck twice and due to the year may of been struck by Heaton ,which makes it harder to determin what the other coin or token is.

    An advertising token has been suggested due to Co. being on the penny a few times but i really dont have a clue.

     

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  7. On 6/4/2023 at 4:38 PM, copper123 said:

    The thing about 1826 pennies is they are fairly common so you would not emagine its worth passing of forgeries as the real thing

    Yes they are not common inverted though and thats why i assume they did them this way.

    I believe if i had put this in auction the auctioneer would of listed it as genuine and would of sold for a premium 😀


  8. 1826 penny inverted FAKE.

    Thought i would share this just incase anyone sees one for sale and before they perhaps pay to much for one ,believing it to be genuine.

    I could not tell looking at one ,no signs of anything to the outside edge or inner rim ,right weight ,size , looks genuine.

    BUT i had two and found pictures of another ,they are all the same with the same bag marks etc and could easily be passed off as genuine if you are not able to compare with another.

    Similar to the 1905 Half crowns that were done in the seventies and look real but all the same.

     

     

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  9. On 5/11/2023 at 7:26 PM, secret santa said:

    Some rare pennies in the Spink auction:

    The Numismatic Collector's Series Featuring The George Blaine Collection Part IV

    e - Auction

    Ends: 17 May 2023 at 10:30 AM EDT
    Spink USA | 458 Lots  

     
     

    https://live.spink.com/lots/view/4-9RFQ1T/great-britain-george-v-1910-1936-variety-group-of-1913-pennies-f174-obverse-1-reverse-a-

    I am not sure which one the Rare F176 is 😃

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