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Yes me to ,its doing my head in 😀.
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No sorry its not one.
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12 hours ago, copper123 said:Well by 1965 or so only 2% or %3 of bronze pennies were victorian bun pennies so it really must have been a long slog.
I think a lot of the varieties put in the book were already catalogued in other books or information given him by other collectors as he mentions in the first copy of "Bronze coinage" only having 2000 halfpennies 1860-1970.The book was a study of dies and the indicators which he then gave a reference and only needed one example to be able to do that.
The 1956 Halfpenny F474 R12 1001-2000 ,although collectors fifty years later are only aware of less than 10.
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On 1/10/2024 at 11:57 AM, oldcopper said:I've got the 1985 version (as has everyone else). Is there much new stuff in the new edition?
As an aside, I'm impressed by Freeman's assertion in his intro that he had a collection of 60,000 Victorian pennies (acquired "randomly from circulation"). He would have collected these in the 1950's to early 60's presumably, and by then the 19th century Victorian pennies would only have made up a small proportion of circulating pennies with most remaining in very low grade. So say there were 10% Victorians left in circulation at that time, Freeman would have had to sift through 600K different pennies to weed out 60K Victorian ones.
So if he collected his pennies actively over a period of 15 years "from circulation" prior to his book coming out (printed mid-60's), that means he would have had to obtain 110 pennies EVERY DAY of those 15 years, each time a fresh batch, to sift out on average the 11 Victorian ones.
Perhaps a more likely scenario was that he was able to buy large accumulations of pennies destined for scrap from the bank, but he would still have to get 600 thousand to sift through for his 10% Victorians, and give back the remainder to the bank.That's assuming the proportion in circulation by then was even as much as 10%. Most would presumably have been melted down or discarded due to wear and age before the massive 20th century issues.
I believe freeman had a deal with a local bus station in the sixties were he bought them all at face value , then went through them and took to the bank himself.
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SOLD Dave Groom.
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Think its just my picture as using a magnifier looks the same as the top one and over a tooth.
The third picture is a single exergue not double and from the ones i have looked at are all the same.
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I have never looked before Terry and thank you for bringing them to our attention.
I have just had a quick look on American eBay and the first few i have looked at a couple appear to be the narrow one.
Am i missing something and wrong or are they the right type ?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204589827335
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126257870145
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Yes i had already sent kip the listing from the sale ,its a CGS picture and in hand the colour somewhere between the two 👍
https://www.noonans.co.uk/auctions/archive/special-collections/162/126237/?
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On 11/8/2023 at 9:11 PM, PWA 1967 said:Just an update on this coin and the 1854/3 that i purchased off eBay from America.
I was charged the 20% on both and as i have numerous times before posted the relevant details and form etc to Border force.
One thing that has changed is previously they have always posted me a cheque ,although today received a letter asking me for my bank details to pay me.
Only takes a few minutes and if your charged to much ,why let them keep it.
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NGC MS64 RB ,UNC with good lustre.
Link to the NGC scans which always make bronze coins look darker ,although if for any reason your not happy please return for a full refund.
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/6134663-011/64/
£600 posted Special Delivery to the UK ,PP or BT.
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This picture that Terry put on a few years ago shows the difference well.
The single has no line /s below other than the one thick one ,these are as in Richards picture the double.
Compare the third picture with the top two.
Regardless of wear they are easy to spot when you have seen a couple ,obviously even more so in hand 👍.
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16 minutes ago, Rob said:Looks like it to me. It is illuminated from below which plays tricks with what you are used to seeing compared with top lighting - raised features often appear incuse and vice-versa until your brain has been re-educated. In this case it is lighting the exergue face on from the source, making it appear wider. I can't see any evidence of two lines.
You may well be right Rob ,i am often wrong.
What made me look twice though is on the single the waves merge into the line and on the double are on top.
I will put it down to the picture and my bad eyesight 😀.
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This is a disgrace ,i sold the coin as an altered date on facebook and the buyer re sold as an altered date on eBay.
Now this clown has decided to try and have someone over as genuine.
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SCARCE 1956 Halfpenny
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I did sell a F474 recently ,although they are Rare and sold for a big premium.