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PWA 1967

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  1. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    I dont know if it matters but Lot 121 was F80 and Lot 122 was F82
  2. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    Just email Lee at colin cooke Mike and sure he will send them you , as i did have them but cant find it.
  3. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    I also bought an 1856 penny the seller told me was EX-Alderley and had to tell him it wasnt although i believed he didnt know and had been ripped off with the price being bumped up.I did buy it off him anyway much cheaper as was a really nice one ,but again i am glad i checked first before i bought it , as he hadnt.
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    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    I remember someone trying to sell me a coin a few years ago ago that the provenance wasnt right......Which i only found out later ☺️ Soon after i bought a penny from an auction (not LCA) only a few known and really good provenance.When i received the coin i was able to get the sellers details and asked him how he knew the provenance that was stated in the description. "i think someone told me "was his reply which didnt sound very promising I then was able to send a message to the person himself who supposedly last had it , as he is still alive......... "No it definately wasnt mine " wasnt really what i wanted to hear ☹️ The auction in fairness did offer me a full refund ,although i decided to keep it. A couple of years later i took a LOSS (it was bugging me ) and sold it making sure the person knew it WASNT right. Provenance is nice although the lesson i learned was to always check and be sure and otherwise just put a line through it and buy just the coin.
  5. Yes.When i was doing some research i found this link quite interesting.Not just pennies but other denominations ,some of which have been asked about previously on here. https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/special-collections/foreword.php?specialcollection_id=160 If anyone is interested you can click on the tab at the bottom and some have footnotes as well as descriptions. I believe there are a few others about ,but as i mentioned just a bit different.
  6. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    😂 I can laugh at myself Dave ,so dont mind laughing with (at) others 😛
  7. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    That person was me , i had only just started collecting but looking at the messages i sent you there was no "winge" just how much would you accept for it as I could not reach the reserve without an underbidder ☺️ Its the reason i remembered your original thread. Maybe 5 years ago you did not think the newbie who knows nothing would still be around
  8. https://www.tokenpublishing.com/ There isnt a link Eric as its a pay for magazine although you can purchase an email copy for just a couple of pound.This cant be shared though as will only work as far as i am aware from the email address its purchased from .To see what the format is like though first you can have a look FOC at a previous issue.
  9. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    Yes thats why i was getting confused , as you also do say in the first post that the coin came from the Crocker sale .
  10. One thats a bit different (daft ) that i bought last week. A couple of other different types have been touted about recently but only wanted one 😉
  11. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    Sorry there was a big thread posted on here a few years ago. that confused me . If you look on the TPG threads there is one called "I have gone and done it " that is about a F176......The last page 5. The crocker one being the same one as was sold at LCA about three years later and then Copthorne.
  12. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    The slabbing does not change the coin Gary.when you bought it from the crocker sale you told cgs and they put a price of about the same value.As more were sold at higher prices they kept increasing it and is currently at £350 graded at 75. Just putting it in a plastic slab confirmed what you wanted which was the grade and the fact it was problem free . I am sure now perhaps more people are looking that your other one will do much better.
  13. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    The Copthorne one Mike i think would of needed to be seen in hand.I am pretty sure its LCA Lot 2210 GEF £150 +.
  14. PWA 1967

    1913 penny - Freeman 175 & 176

    Yes when you start looking there are not many F176 although there is more than two sold at LCA. The Copthorne one i am sure is one of the ones sold at LCA and the Frank Stephenson one was from the Andy scott sale.... the Workman one is wrongly attributed. Although the F164a i think people have decided if they want one to settle for a low grade and the F176 maybe people will only look for a decent one .