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  1. I always struggle to understand how 3rd party graders can hope to achieve consistency given that the same person won't always grade a particular denomination of coin, the lighting conditions (whether natural or artificial) will always be slightly different when examining the coin, and it's not possible to make comparisons with other coins of that denomination other than via photographs and we all know how photos of the same coin can differ dramatically depending on conditions and technology used.

    Theoretically, the only way to grade truly accurately would be to have a library set of every denomination of coin in every physical (not photographs) grade to make side by side comparisons.

    Given that that's not practical, we have to accept that 3rd party graders will have to work from previous photographs of similar coins and written descriptions of grades, much like the rest of us, and can only be accurate to within a range of uncertainty.

  2. 12 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

    Anyway, just wanted to say that beaded borders are quite distinct once you've seen them.

    Absolutely - they are spherical beads quite separate from the rim and linear circle. Sometimes, parts of a toothed border may appear to be beaded but they will not be separate from the rim.


    Beaded border


    Toothed border with some teeth looking like beads, particularly between the I and A.

  3. Even on a fairly well worn specimen the thinner heel of the thumb and the 4 teeth to the right of the trident are still visible. Additionally, reverse D has 2 clear teeth between the central and right hand trident prongs whereas reverse E has just a single clear tooth midway between the prongs.


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  4. Not a huge difference in Britannia's fist, in my view.


    Reverse D on left; reverse E on right. The major difference in the fist appears to me to be the heel of the thumb which looks much fatter on rev D, but this needs verifying on more specimens.

    Alternatively, the trident prongs and the upright of the P meet the border teeth in slightly different places.


    Reverse D on left; reverse E on right with 4 teeth clearly visible between the white line and the right hand trident prong.

  5. The whole set is integrated and sealed into a single pack so that no individual part of it can be replaced and so withdrawing the set and re-issuing a new one is the only practical option. I bought mine through the Westminster outfit so they would have my details rather than the Mint. The set cost £55 so I don't think that they would consider sending a replacement without receiving the faulty set first.

    And they have only offered this replacement as an option rather than a request, so I suspect that most people won't bother.

    Expensive mistake, rather like product recalls.

  6. Hi Jack

    Collect what you want to collect and what you find interesting and attractive - it's your hobby and your money. But do read all you can about your subject as that may well affect what you end up collecting or specialising in. And do keep detailed records of your purchases together with the best photographs that you can manage (the examples above are pretty good).

    You will have years of pleasure (with a little frustration and envy thrown in).

    Best of luck.

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  7. 10 hours ago, secret santa said:

    Televison instead of television for the Logie Baird coin .

    When you think about it, this blatant spelling mistake (in very large letters) plus the grammatical error I mentioned earlier represents a pretty p*ss poor effort by the Royal Mint.

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  8. 10 hours ago, mick1271 said:

    I have seen that the packaging error on the sets is a spelling mistake .Televison instead of television for the Logie Baird coin .

    Absolutely right - I've read the packaging a hundred times and not spotted that !


    Mystery solved - and not likely to be worth a fortune in the future !

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