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Posts posted by secret santa
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Great stuff, Ian !
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Th explanation for the "dots" was contained in an article that I wrote for Coin News last year. I'll try to precis it for the dot penny page on the rare penny site.
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4 hours ago, jelida said:This coin, and Richard’s and Mike’s all seem to have the zig-zagging flaw from the lower left of Victoria’s bust to the rim, this might be a consistent feature of the variety.
Looks like it - over to Ian to confirm !
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3 hours ago, alfnail said:I wasn't meaning that the numeral 9 is narrow in itself!!
Right, I'll update my descriptions.
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I also bought a coin in this auction - an 1859 small date with what Ian Fall calls a "narrow" 9. It's taller with a larger and oval loop. I've been looking for one of these for a while so I think they must be scarce.
Ian's comparison:
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I seem to remember that years ago some weather forecaster said that there was an over 80% probability that tomorrow's weather in the UK would be the same as today's.
How things change !
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3 hours ago, DrLarry said:Perhaps you might want to add it to your rare dot "varieties" I certainly think (although I am biased please note) it should be added
I'm not inclined to add it to the "Dot" pennies because virtually all of these have perfectly circular raised dots about which Paul Holland has offered a plausible explanation for their origin and I'd prefer to keep them together as a single "phenomenon".
Possibly another page could be created for coins with extraneous extra metal such as this ? Let me think about it.
Richard
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At the time of buying the coin, Barker, of Hull, said he was “over the moon” when he discovered how unique it was.
So, how unique is it ? Rather unique ? Quite unique ? Very unique ? A trifle unique ?
I'm afraid that the word "unique" is going the way of "literally" and "amazing" - i.e. becoming meaningless.
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I would expect a specimen strike to be much, much sharper than this.
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Very rare 1881H F103 sold on Ebay today for £1420 - a reasonable price for a genuine rarity with fewer than 10 examples on my website.
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3 hours ago, 1949threepence said:In fact I'm not sure the detached clover is a reliable indicator as there are a number of other varieties and dates which also have it, including my 1860/59, several 1858's and going back, even my 1853 proof penny has a detached clover.
Ditto for me - I agree that the die crack looks to be a definitive identifier for the obverse. I'll look a little more at the reverse.
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21 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Should add that my OT 1856 is only fine, but the detached clover is very clear.
Just checked my 1856 OT - detached clover is there but NOT the misaligned colon after DEF.
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Great work as always, Ian.
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12 hours ago, alfnail said:A long time ago I realised that, like some other overdate pennies in the YH series, it is often possible to identify an 1858/6 without being able to see the date. All of my 10 coins have had the same features on both obverse and reverse which indicates that this type is always struck from a single die pairing.
A cursory examination reveals a die crack on the obverse from the C of VICTORIA to the rim and, on the reverse, the colon after DEF is misaligned.
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7 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Thanks Ian - I'll apply my detective skills !
I wait with bated breath (saves me looking !)
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On 6/18/2023 at 9:32 PM, Peckris 2 said:Could you add a note about the note about Note 18 please?
I've added a little more to the Victoria bronze obverse page on this.
https://pennyvarieties.wordpress.com/victoria-bronze-part-2-1861/
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2 hours ago, 1949threepence said:They still work for me
Me too.
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1 hour ago, Zo Arms said:And an inspired addition to his main Halfpenny site.
Thank you for your kind comments but the halfpenny site is very much an afterthought, something to do in Lockdown.
Pennies are my main (only) interest.
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8 hours ago, Coinery said:With this being a 6+G do you happen to have the Freeman number to hand?
F39
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33 minutes ago, alfnail said:... and one or two more!!😉
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12 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Just bought a couple of upgrades from Asprey Coins, based in Havant. In doing so, I had a good long chat with the owner, Mark Horton, on Monday Evening. Easy to talk to and a real coin enthusiast. Anyway, we got round to talking about varieties, and he drew my attention to something - possibly a mini variety - which I've never come across before. Namely slight differences in the E of PENNY in 1900 pennies. Mark had observed that the lower bar of E in penny was straight in some examples, and slightly curved in others. I checked mine, which was curved.
Mark sent me an e mail with some illustrative pics. They're a bit big to use on here, so instead I started looking at 1900 penny examples on e bay, and outsorted a couple of examples.
Straight lower bar of E in PENNY
Slightly curved lower bar of E in PENNY
I've used the direct links as you can employ the zoom feature and see more easily. But he's right, there is a noticeable difference.
Thoughts?
Mark was very happy for me to raise the issue on here and use his name.
I've mentioned this with pictures on my varieties website for Edward VII pennies but haven't noticed it on 1900 pennies.
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Yes, slip of the keyboard ! £12,880.
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I was going to bid for the 1895 pattern (F777) at Noonan's today. A similar specimen sold for £3500 on Baldwin's list in 2011 but today it went for £10,880 !!!!!!!!!
Needless to say, I didn't buy it.
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2 hours ago, blakeyboy said:I can't afford one since putting all my money into phlogiston.
That must weigh heavy on your mind.
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Mine has got the same as Ian's.