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It looks more like Donald Campbell in Bluebird to me.

That link works fine for me. Clicking on the > at the bottom of the page moves to the next page.

Welcome to the Forum. As a copper & bronze man, you may find my websites of interest.

Probably Groucho Marx who famously said that he didn't want to be part of any club that would accept him as a member !

I emailed him to let him know we remember him and got this reply: "Hi Richard, Happy New year to you too. Having sold the bulk of my collection, I'm really not involved in the collection of pennies any longer so haven't visited pre-decimal forum. If anyone has a specific enquiry or question about a coin I sold, then I'd be pleased to help though. Happy collecting! Best wishes, Steve"

See: https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/1933-f209/

Stephen Etheridge ? I think he gave up collecting and sold his collection through Colin Cooke (Copthorne collection) in 2016.

I hope you're right - have a great Christmas.

My own comments for what they're worth: Many of Bramah's "varieties" such as the 2a (small curved marking to the left of the foot of the 4) could be regarded as trivial (and almost certainly non-intentional) alterations to a die and not truly therefore a recordable variety in Peck's eyes. The intentional overdates are listed by Peck. There are comparable examples in the bronze range that Michael Gouby lists but Freeman either ignored or mentioned in footnotes. Secondly, once the baby boomer generation has passed away, the generation that never uses cash, paying for everything with cards or phones, won't be remotely interested in tiny differences in something they never use or see the point of. And our coin collections will be worthless..............

I've tried to capture as many versions as I could: https://headsntails14.wordpress.com/george-iii-patterns-restrikes/#top

Done !

Absolutely https://headsntails14.wordpress.com/victoria-official-pattern-obverses-reverses/

There is an indescribable feeling of owning a particular coin - any coin. Even if it's locked away, modern photographs are sufficiently good as to provide visual access at any time. Some people may prefer to spend their money on holidays, or expensive cars - I prefer to buy coins - I can't really describe why and I don't expect others to feel the same way or understand. That's what makes us all different.

Did anyone watch this programme last Monday ? It featured a man who chased 2 burglars from his house in his car before colliding with them on their stolen motorbike causing them injuries. They were career criminals who were merely given suspended sentences (because it would be difficult for them in jail) whilst he was given a 22 month prison sentence. That caused his wife to terminate her pregnancy and they've had to move away. His defence costs were over £50K but a GoFundMe page has now raised almost £150K. Oh yes, and the scumbags are now sueing him for damages. It certainly pays to be a criminal in Britain these days. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/24-hours-police-custody-outraged-184428067.html https://www.gofundme.com/f/give-adam-white-justice

I think I would prefer to be deliberately injured rather than accidentally killed. Should the sentence reflect that ?

It's certainly not any evidence of a majority but the posted comments demonstrate an awful lot of support: https://www.gofundme.com/f/give-adam-white-justice

I would love to see a system that allocates punishment on an incremental basis, i.e. every successive crime acknowledges previous crimes and becomes more and more punitive, culminating in something truly dreadful. There seems very little deterrent in today's system. If every crime is simply judged on its standalone "merits", there is no recognition of the career criminal and the drain on society that he/she represents.

I originally posted this because of the disgust that I felt with the lack of punishment dealt out to the serial offenders. I also felt that Adam White's punishment was unduly harsh in the circumstances although it wasn't really feasible that he would have been completely exonerated. A much smaller punishment (suspended sentence perhaps) for him and a much harsher punishment for the burglars would have been more acceptable to the general public in my opinion.

And the more the courts show undue leniency to criminals, the more an aggrieved householder is likely to overreact in the heat of the incident.

It's reached over £168K now and the comments of the donors reflect the views of so many people regarding the leniency shown to the career criminals. No doubt they had a difficult childhood and are beautiful boys at heart. In fact, one of them when being arrested and asked if there was anyone who should be informed of his arrest, nominated his pregnant girlfriend and, when asked her date of birth, replied that he had no idea. Compulsory sterilisation crosses my mind.

Precisely !!!!!!!!!!

Given that the estimate was £10-12K, I imagine that the reserve was somewhat higher than £5.5K but, if so, why start so low ? Is that a "come and get me" starting level ? In the same sale, here's an example of a coin that didn't meet its reserve although it did have a bid, so I assume that no bids means no bids, to paraphrase Theresa May. https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/d3cfc4b59ea829d9300d9c650f7b8836/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/timed-auction-of-750-lots-of-coins-medallions-and-silv-lot-454/

I think there's a growing feeling that justice is not being seen to be done in many cases in this country, and that we are soft on serial offenders. The fact that prison sentences, even if they are actually given, are only ever half-served annoys the hell out of me. It would be satisfying if this case generates enough momentum to cause change, but I'm not holding my breath.

I find the most enraging aspect is that the culprits suffered no legal punishment and even worse, that they may make financial gain from the episode.