IS THERE A CERTIFICATION COMPANY BASE IN EUROPE

[IS THERE A CERTIFICATION COMPANY BASE IN EUROPE]

I agree with Tom! Centuries of coin collectors have used the coin cabinet without the polution of the dreaded plasic. Besides, I need a coin to be circulated to give it a sense of history. Many quite admirable coins I've seen slabbed look as though they were made yesterday - where's the romance of history in that?

If they last for centuries well that will be case, Just asking why, now I know, JUST A FAVOR SINCE IM NEW DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE A POLL TITLE SLABBING COMPANY IN EUROPE, IN FAVOR, NOT FAVOR for this topic most of you dont want so just a try, mentioning try nobody try to open slabbing company here in europe hope will start a poll to take a pulse of europe

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I believe I read or heard somewhere that London Coin are gearing up to offer a grading service that I assume will include slabbing. Not being interested in slabbing as I own a very nice mahogany coin cabinet, I can see a benifit with slabbing a coin after grading in that it locks the coin to the grading.

You taking care good care of your coins, for there is a lot of coins minted all over the world and some been put back in the goverment to be melted and other melt even thier gold and national treasure when they are in crisis for good coins you have it must have survived those two and other things that your coin still exist today, that you have that coin others dont and maybe coins that are not recorded and track most slabbing company have population report good for them, migth be also good for other that they were recorded and count the number that they still exist today few and endangered for they may be gone or lost at least it is recorded in slabbing company how many they are and in what condition or grade, it also lower and up the price of the coin well it is recorded both in company and in books for other to see that they dont have THANK YOU

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YES the old long question slab or not, between a company and a collector am I right... thus slab coin preseve much longer than unslab? there are different level of condition of coin as for every or all things in this world lucky for those who have them and love them......

Hmm... I think the general question is whether British collectors want to pay a premium for a coin an American (for pretty much all grading companies employ US graders) has graded and stuck in a bit of plastic when they are capable of grading the coin for themselves. They then have to break the coin out of the slab at risk of damage so they can store it in a cabinet where generations of other coins have happily survived the passage of time.

For an example of where it all goes wrong this coin obtained the grade MS62 (= Unc or EF+) and a price tag of over $1000 (£560) because neither the (US) grader nor cataloguer had seen a wide enough selection of similar coins...

THANK YOU for your reply, As I said earlier there are other countries longer history than the USA...they should have a grading company with all thier expert pack in one company to catalogue and record all coins in europe as for the service it goes along there is also a downside studying and looking and checking for detail of the coin for me it is fair to have thier fee, If the major company in the USA dont want to step it is up to the expert here in europe if they want, or not, so that coin you have will happen again and grade other coin, for all the expert here channel there knowledge in one big company and to slab the old coin,

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Slab/ornot varies from collector to collector. It all comes down to 'how they collect', 'what they collect' and 'why they collect'.

Take for example these two coins;

1) Proof 1969 Kennedy half in MS67

Versus

2) A circulated Denarius of Trajan dating to the 2nd century CE.

One has value in grade and condition which, if not encapsulated somehow (be it slab or airtite) many be prone to knocks or damage.

The other has more value in history and archaeology than in grade.

Big difference.

As for my own personal preference i disagree with slabbing not so much on the fact that the coin is encapsulated (true i physically have to handle my coins to get any pleasure out of them), but more on the fact that emphasis is placed upon grade. There's more to coins than grade and i believe slabbing is making many collectors miss the bigger picture of the whole joy of numismatics, of which grade is only part.

Secondly slabs infer "objective" grading, indeed this is misleading there is not such thing as 'objective' grading, all grading is in the eye of the beholder and thus 'subjective'. What i think is pretty might make Oli choke on his laurels.

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Well...... for me old rare coin should be really preseve either by encapsulation or other form, or any other rare old artifacts,once lost is quite hard to gain, True grading is part, but judging the grade or condition of the coin is another before you judge you are knowledgeble by expierence for a long time not only seen once but may specimen or coin, and seen other coin that other didnt see at all, as for the grade and the price as you said depends on who collect them fewer who collect lesser the price,slabbing also record there coins, After slabbing and before affect the price of the coin especially in modern coins it is must be the case, where there are collector that are satisfied looking at thier coin for a while and want to upgrade thier coin to have a more pleasure looking at upgrade coin also the price, Well im just a beginner what does collector do when they have all the coin they want that is all good or excellent condition slab and unslab what will be next in line?

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Lockdales of Ipswich offer slabbed coins so they may know how you'd go about this but I'm not aware of any European services. This is in part because European, or at least British, collectors appear less than keen on 'slabbed' coins. (See several threads on this site).

You need to remember that some certification services have much better reputations than others so chosing carefully might pay off.

You should also be aware that, at least in the UK, the market for slabbed coins is also different from that for 'numismatic' items. Slabbed coins are pretty much just an investment novelty 'over here'.

By the way josie please could you use a bit more punctuation line breaks cos your postings are interesting but it's really difficult to read a streamofconsciousness without any breaks between the various subjects or questions and sometimes I simply lose the thread of where you're going?

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY, yes most of the time i forgot to make a comma or pause, just browse on the site, THANKS for the info,British and othre european countries have a long line of history as you mentioned, much more longer history than the USA i may say..., like in this forum there is a section where coin from 16th century upto now is being confirmed and verified, if USA have a very very wide record of there coinage it is applicable to other countries who is more longer history than them,if most of the coin in past is not recorded well it be lost and not be preserve in both records and actual coin for most of the metal is melted when the nation is in crisis, at least it is recorded and studied in present and know the story behind it which is a part of history of one nation, there is a saying or quote that a man is searching for a treasure start in small one wanted a bigger one both in material and non material, well im starting in small on....

Ah the perpetual 'to slab' or 'not to slab' debate... that goes around.

YES the old long question slab or not, between a company and a collector am I right... thus slab coin preseve much longer than unslab? there are different level of condition of coin as for every or all things in this world lucky for those who have them and love them......

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Is there a slabbing or company certifiying coins base in europe for some of us may take a holiday and slab or certify they coin for people like to travel and it is time to have one for the expanding europe there past coin and use in circulation to be studied and recorded for we know that US has plenty of it and didnt seen any major companies expanding there base to the world or decentralizing for they have to train and make courses to novice or beginners or for those who love studying it, also i believe that there is many expert in there field of speaciality in most country of the world that teach them.

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The cheapest book which is pretty good with varieties and a lot cheaper than the others, is my book, here:

http://www.predecimal.com/shop/product_inf...s-printed-books

THANK YOU CHRIS great book and forum i like the coins of britain confirmed in the section of this forum, during the time i look in this forum seen some post ,you are an author, still browsing on your site for products, like the GB 2006 book,

[1908 penny same obverse as of 1907 great britain]

there are many varities in great britain coins that i do not know bee to other forum this site pop up when a reply to ask a coin expert in british coin for 10 of millions of 1907 and 1908 penny was struck tony clayton web site mentioned that ID variety was reported but notconfirmed there are changes in 1907 close BRITT:OMN change to wide BRITT: OMN in 1908 both obverse and reverse was change in this year is this a variety of 1908 wide BRITT: OMN or a mule with a obverse of 1907 and a reverse of 1908

Welcome Josie, there are in fact six varieties of the 1908 penny, 2 different reverses which can be told apart by the position of the E in penny. The the vertical strock of he E either aligns with a tooth or a gap between teeth, coupled with this are 3 obverse. These are I of IND to tooth, I of IMP to tooth. I of IND to tooth, I of IMP to gap and finally I of IND to gap, : after BRITT to tooth.

THANK YOU the reply and for the additional information on 1908 penny you have a great source of information is there a site for varieties reference beside forum format or a book where i can buy one and what good site to buy i saw a site mentioning if not mistaken peck and freeman most of the time i visit his site clayton site is very helpfull i like to know more varities in great britain and ireland coin im starting in lower denomination farthing to penny for now in 1900 to decimal, source or coin is not that hard to get for im here in ireland to look and see if i can find any difference, I really like to know the other reference

[1908 penny same obverse as of 1907 great britain]

there are many varities in great britain coins that i do not know bee to other forum this site pop up when a reply to ask a coin expert in british coin for 10 of millions of 1907 and 1908 penny was struck tony clayton web site mentioned that ID variety was reported but notconfirmed there are changes in 1907 close BRITT:OMN change to wide BRITT: OMN in 1908 both obverse and reverse was change in this year is this a variety of 1908 wide BRITT: OMN or a mule with a obverse of 1907 and a reverse of 1908