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Are others having trouble accessing LCA at the moment? I tried yesterday evening, and again this morning, and once I get in and try to search a specific category it says 'waiting for a response'..............and then times out.

I’m attempting to clear stuff which has been sat in the attic for ages and came across a couple of old chains made from ‘silver’ coins, the first of which is pictured. It is made up of 1884 coins (10x 3d’s and 1 shilling). One or two are in ok condition e.g. the shilling, but as can be seen all have been soldered to make the chain. Does anyone have experience of such things, and whether better to try to remove solder (which I have never attempted) or should I just list on ebay ‘as is’, accept the outcome and save myself the effort? Silver is not my forte so I have no real clue as to value. If anyone does happen to be interested in purchasing please feel free to PM me. The other chain is made up of 21 x 4d’s (groats), William IIII and Victoria, an 1843 1½d, an 1817 Sixpence and a Queen Anne Shilling, most of which IMO are in poor condition apart from the 1843 1½d. Any thoughts welcome, thanks……….even if it’s chuck them away or sell for scrap!

Thanks for a laugh Pete................but some of this sellers items for sale I found quite desirable............how Bizarre!!

P.S. Thanks for all the comments

I am pretty sure these would have been made shortly after 1884 as they were worn by my wife's grandmother, born that year.... maybe a clue as to type of soldering for those who know more than me!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152759970754?ul_noapp=true Wonder what the ones he dislikes from his collection look like!

Richard's pennyvarieties website has recently been updated re. 1863 open 3 reverses to include the attached types, which are additional to his excellent example at the top of this page. I believe that all 3 types have been sold as open 3's at LCA

Wonder whether, at that price, someone thought this was a weak 1875 canon ball:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCARCE-1875-Penny-VICTORIA-Bronze-1d-coin-Spink-3954-CHOICE-BU-SCARCE-833-/272836516615?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=uWO8owfz6c9AzlVeqq6TDXUE4GU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Hi Terry, I did wonder whether they may be related to teeth gaps, a bit like on this 1860 F16..........again a bit of a mystery in that location!

Gouby BP 1863 Ab - his page 46 "another new mystery looking or an answer!". Anyone had thoughts on this since his 2009 book? Die axes fairly well aligned and nothing on obverse to suggest ghosting.

Sorry Bernie didn't realise that the title of my picture (Gouby BP 1860T_Satin 19) would not appear in my earlier post; that's why I didn't bother with a picture of the reverse side........I guess that's what you would expect from a Junior Member! Anyway, here's the reverse, for those of you that did not spot the missing colon:-

An upgrade on my existing.......which has already been sold!

I expect if you were to phone LC and speak to Semra saying that you want the F96 penny at the low estimate then she will say you can have it.....assuming that's what you now want.

Interesting piece listed on ebay as a BIN, an 1874 Heaton penny displaying similar 'cock's comb' to the legendary 1862. Freeman 66, so same reverse as the 1862, but H. Think were described as flaws in the Colin Cooke 'Crocker' sale, can't see that it could be ghosting in that area, so seems coincidental similar flaw on last year of the Freeman G (Gouby g) reverse.......unless anyone has different ideas. Anyway, don't think I have seen this on any other piece 1863-1874. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1874H-Bronze-Penny-Victoria-Extra-Plumes-Higher-Grade-Similar-to-1862/401381843809?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Attached pictures of Crosslet and Plain both just taken at exact same 140 x mag, maybe aid the discussion. Apart from the tails there certainly seem to be several other 'font' differences to me e.g. distances from foot to central 'horizontal bar', particularly noticeable at RHS. Have just had quick check at LCA recent sales and that particular 'difference' seems the same on past few examples of both types. Sorry I have not got higher grade pieces, sold to pay for holidays, shoes and new tops..........not for me!

Well remembered Pete, yes I did do a study of 4's on Victorian Copper Pennies, thread starts at bottom of page 61 in the 'More Pennies' thread.

Hi Mike, the USA coin is an 1879 MS63 F96, pictures attached, cropped pictures to best utilise 500MB data limit availability. Still think I should be well pleased at price I have paid, but somehow no longer feels like a bargain! I find this variety quite difficult, and have rarely seen in high grade.

I have just received a 'bun' penny I bought at a well known USA auction site, with a hammer of $180. By the time I could get the UPS guy to hand it over I worked out that the total cost including auction fees, their excessive postage, customs charges, and additional UPS fees for helping (!) me pay the customs charges worked out at around £240 (yes £, not $). I am pleased to hear that Mike got the 1874 F69. I was watching the bun pennies getting 'passed' by so quickly that I missed this coin (which was the only one I wanted), Sorry John, enjoy the whiskey.

Thanks, found it. Interesting this piece sold at LCA 6 years ago for £460 + BP but didn't reach low estimate this June. Depressed penny market?

Does anyone happen to know whether Lot 2843 in the June auction has been sold. This is the 1860 penny with missing colon dots after the D (Gouby BP 1860T). I cannot see it in the results, so I'm guessing that it did not sell at auction, but perhaps sold afterwards. Thanks

Ebay BIN £60. Hard to find such bargains on there nowadays.

Very tempted by the sales patter...... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1897-DOT-Victoria-Penny-coin-W1897a-Fair-F147-O-NE-very-RARE-/142445773255?hash=item212a6e01c7:g:81IAAOSwYlRZMHBo

Rob, I have a CGS75 example which appears to have the same features on the 3 and 5 as shown in one of your own pictures. It also has a clear area between the top bar and top curve of the 5, whereas your own example seems to be 'filled' in that area, clogged die or grime I guess. I cannot see any flaws on the obverse anywhere on the legend, other than perhaps on the numeral 5 itself (Colin's theory). There also appears to be an additional line (highlighted in red) under the top bar of the 5 which I am thinking may reinforce the 'die crack' theory rather than being consistent with an underlying numeral 4. Hope this helps rather than confuses, I do not claim to know much about Farthings. P.S. Sorry about 'cloudy' pictures, they never come out well for me on slabbed pieces........uuuggghhh

Obverse a little rubbed perhaps!? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311872546661?ul_noapp=true

Like the humour Bernie.... Lol