Coin Reverse Orientation

[Coin Reverse Orientation]

Interesting - I would never have guessed that.

Were any of the early bronze patterns medal orientation?

[2000 Bahamas SEVEN COIN Specimen Set - Rarity Most Likely]

I wonder why they bothered for such small mintages - could the sale from 50 coins have covered costs even?

[Coin Reverse Orientation]

And why were the bronze coins in medal orientation from 1860 as well for that matter?

[2013 Prince George £5 silver proof - different dies or die states?]

Well spotted.

[Score lines or graffiti]

9 hours ago, Menger said:

Correction - The mule is 3d obverse young head #3 not #2 as stated above. 

Unlisted in Davies by the looks of it?

[Stuff to Make Us Laugh]

Is that still on TV?

[New variety of F111 1882 H 2/1 penny]

Nice, though I don't suppose there's a third edition in the works.

[1953 Farthing]

Oh, and it's paired with both obverse 1 and obverse 2 as well? Is there a picture of it paired with obverse 1?

[1953 Farthing]

Nice find - I didn't think there would be any new farthing discoveries at this point, least of all in the Elizabeth II series.

[2000 Bahamas SEVEN COIN Specimen Set - Rarity Most Likely]

On 4/13/2022 at 3:25 PM, VickySilver said:

The RAM Australian Mint has made some scarcities during these years as well but some of the rarities remain a bit obscure - Mister T knows far more than I about these .....

I really need to try and get my hands on some of those earlier mint reports - the mintage figures should be there.

[Amazing Coin Story (Warning: Franklin Mint material discussed! LOL)]

Well done. I probably would have caved and bought them but it's good you got them at a good price.

[1868 Shilling, stop before date]

Is the other high grade example die number 17 too?

[Coinstar find]

Like the little tray at the bottom of an old coin phone.

[Threepence List]

Which bit are you unconvinced about - that they were struck for colonial use or that they were struck for circulation at all?

I'm not too familiar with the early threepences but I'm guessing that most surviving examples are Maundy money and they're generally rare because either they were exported or not actually struck (for circulation) but at this point we have no way of knowing either way.

[Threepence List]

Maybe but Collectors Coins Great Britain says not, and neither does https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4412.html

Some of them have mintages listed too which isn't conclusive but it'd suggest at least some of the years were made for circulation.

[Threepence List]

What are the 1846, 1847, 1849, 1852 and 1853 varieties? I see nothing in Davies or Bull.

Also, why are 1847, 1848 and 1852 missing in Davies altogether?

[More Pennies]

On 2/26/2022 at 9:33 PM, terrysoldpennies said:

It was way back in Oct 2014  that I discovered the new 2*, so that's nearly eight years ago now.          There must have been many test types made, but after test runs found them to be unserviceable for the long production lines needed were then destroyed with no examples surviving through to the present day .     But I guess we'll all will keep looking , as you never know what's going to turn up !!

Oh time flies! And yes I suppose even with the ones we do know of, it's lucky that any survived.

On 2/26/2022 at 10:31 PM, jelida said:

At least two reasonably discrete true varieties have turned up since the 2* obverse, both overstrikes, the F33 ‘N over inverted N’  that I described on this forum, and the F15 ‘R over A in Victoria’.  New varieties  still seem to turn up every few years and I am sure more will be found though progressively fewer in this intensely studied series. But you do certainly have to watch out for mistakes in EBay listings, they are not infrequent though usually obvious.

Jerry

Ah of course. I don't keep as close a track of the legend errors but even the inverted A in VICTORIA (1862?) is reasonably new I think.

Anyway, I suppose there are lots of countries where an 1860 or 1861 penny is just that too - no local interest in Freeman numbers, so there's still hope.

[Royal Mint annual reports 1870-1976 now online]

Hm, there might be a way to automatically download it - I'll have to look into it when I have some time.

[Halfpenny ID check]

I only had a brief look but in my notes I had obverses 4 and 5 with the rotated D in F:D: and obverse 6 having the straight D in F:D: (from Dracott's articles I think).

I didn't look too closely at which obverse it actually was but the D looks a bit rotated to the right.

[More Pennies]

On 2/24/2022 at 11:46 PM, secret santa said:

Anyone spot the 1862 5+G (H+g) penny on Ebay recently ? An exciting new find perhaps ?

Gary S has confirmed that it was erroneous listing with the seller getting his photos confused. I had suspected as much because the obverse and reverse photos were different technologies (one was JPEG and the other PNG images).

Disappointing though.🙁

It is a shame, though how long has it been since the last new bun penny variety was discovered - a couple of years? I think it was the different alignment of obverse 2 or something like that. I'm not sure when the last discovery before that was.

There are probably more discoveries to be made but there can't be that many more to be made.

[Royal Mint annual reports 1870-1976 now online]

No worries - I suspect this is quite a recent development (like maybe the last week or two) - I think I saw it on Twitter (which is down right now so I can't check).

Previously all I'd been able to find online was https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/C11038 which I think would require payment.

[Royal Mint annual reports 1870-1976 now online]

For those who haven't seen, the Royal Mint Museum has digitised some of the older annual reports: https://library.royalmintmuseum.org.uk/archive/royal-mint-annual-reports

[1898 Sixpence with SMALL date / small font digits]

Oh I see - I remember the unlisted coins in your auction @Nick - I didn't realise the different dates corresponded to different reverse dies too.

[Gothic crown]

No worries. I think a few years ago now eBay started enforcing that all Gothic crowns needed to be sold in slabs (maybe only eBay USA).

[1911+1912 H Both same rev?]

Looking back at this, it definitely looks like a new obverse - the bottom bar on the E in DEI is definitely different. What is the difference with the thumb and St Andrew's cross? I can't quite make it out, but it looks like the fingers are diagonal to the trident in one and perpendicular in the other.

Is this meant to be all 1911 are type 1 and all 1912H are type 2? Looking at a few pictures on the PCGS website all the coins I looked at (1911, 1912 and 1912H) all seemed to have the normal E (not the long bottom bar).