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On 7/5/2022 at 7:57 AM, 1949threepence said:Incidentally, high time we had a new book on pre 1860 copper, including the top quality pics that are easily available today. Can't quite understand why we've had several on post 1860 bronze, but none the other way. Maybe it's a period which never quite captured the numismatic imagination.
I suppose it was before we were all born, so we have no fond memories of it, but was there any copper book similar to Freeman's when decimalisation rolled around? I assumed that bronze varieties were popular because they were cheap (to pull from change at least) but also because there was a readily available reference book that got to the point.
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Is the coin rusted? Looks like it may have been buried.
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I would too - I've seen a few scarce Solomon Islands things come up and have bought duplicates.
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It is a good read - I think Michael Gouby said he used it as a starting point and when he asked Graham Dyer about where the bronze figures came from, he said they were best effort at the time when O'Sweeny contacted him.
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Also that's on a Jubilee head rather than a young head right? And where did you get the images? Are they from an auction? I've had no luck looking for a "wide date" 1887 sixpence.
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Ah understood - thanks.
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Oh, maybe like the 1887 half crown - do you have a picture of the whole coin? Odd that a pattern would have such an overdate though.
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I don't know the history of the Franklin Mint but I thought it went out of business or similar and continues to exist in name only. Not outside the realm of possibility that staff kept or sold old dies.
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Ah nice, thanks - looks I had that bookmarked but the auction search doesn't seem to highlight whose collection it was.
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On 6/11/2022 at 4:15 AM, terrysoldpennies said:Your right , but they also have different reverses , as they both have a different date width . The first has the 2 over the tooth [12 tooth width] , the other its positioned over the gap between the teeth and narrower [11.5 tooth] .
I'm a bit confused - 2+G, 3+G and 6+G are the known die pairings for 1862 right? Reverse G obviously has a number of different date spacings, but the obverses don't vary do they?
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Thanks Nick and just.me - great information.
Is that an 8 over 8?
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I haven't looked at ebay much lately - I see a few coins trying to sold on UK Facebook coin groups but I don't pay enough attention to see if they do sell.
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Hm, the plot thickens.
Was the Franklin Mint source published in one of those early catalogues?
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Shame - I periodically see the unlisted types get mentioned here and note them down.
I don't suppose there was an auction of Davies' collection at any point? Or is he still collecting?
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Yes the date doesn't look right, not does the rim.
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On 6/4/2022 at 3:14 AM, just.me said:1882 has 2 varieties, reverse C and reverse D
1889 obverse 2 is paired with reverses A, B & C
Oh interesting - not in Davies.
Do you know where they were published?
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Again, for 11 pieces, why bother?
Is this a coin for which the dies were mysteriously sold off or was that another Panamanian coin?
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I see now that the numbers for the groat and threepence obverses match - convenient.
But it looks like Graham Dyer found another one not mentioned above.
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Agreed - it is a good likeness. As for the monogram - I agree, but I suppose they needed something.
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https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/556493 has an article on an 1837 groat using threepence obverse 3 (I think).
Davies isn't clear but is groat obverse 2 the same as threepence obverse 2, groat obverse 3 the same as threepence obverse 3 and groat obverse 4 the same as threepence obverse 4?
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My inclination is to say deliberate damage but that's more gut feel, because I'm not sure how it could have happened during normal production.
I think dies were made to be slightly concave/convex (I don't remember the exact reason) but certainly not to that extreme.
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Related to this coin - I assume the number of VIP proof sets struck is unknown but I'm guessing dozens at most? Some searching show the mayor of London/governor of the BBC got one but other than that I couldn't find much information.
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One benefit of collecting these niche areas - you can get some good buys on the rarities.
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13 hours ago, VickySilver said:IMHO the latest is not even as good as the 6th edition primarily because I have seen very little added and the loss of the provenance section.
Was anything of interest added?
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