Mr T

Related to http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/13797-1951-crown-type-i-and-type-ii-reverse/

Yes the Spink website is broken. I recall having some luck with Internet Explorer some years ago but it is no longer maintained I don't think. I found https://fliphtml5.com/sbxk/oeok/basic and https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/31858249/download-pdf-spink though I can't find any working .pdf downloaders for those sites at the moment.

Ah that would explain it. The archive link on their website leads nowhere to I see. Was it a .pdf in more recent times?

Hard to say from the pictures, but comparing to https://collections.museumsvictoria.com.au/items/57841, there might be a bit more detail in the King's hair and area under his eye, and on the reverse the left arm of the centre cross almost touches the bottom arch on the pattern but is well clear on the standard. Both reverses have 180 denticles and both obverses have 183 denticles by my count. Are there any better images?

Anyone got links for the 1889 2+C shilling and 1898 2+B sixpence as well?

Do you know if the 7 to head is known on circulating coins? I'm inclined to call it a pattern because it looks like an unrecorded obverse too - there are two lines on the bottom of the crown like obverse 1 but three pearls on the central arch like obverse 2.

Thanks - I'll try and take a closer look on the weekend.

Defiantly instead of definitely too. Any time I see the word defiantly now I assume it is incorrect.

Is that the unrecorded reverse half crown in the above list? Which lot number is it?

Thanks - any other differences to look for besides the edge?

Nice work. Poor old decimals never seem to enjoy the same love as predecimal.

It's been a while since I did Latin but I thought that in Latin you could decline Greek nouns either the Latin way or the Greek way. In English we seem to do the correct thing with French words.

Oh interesting - hope you can dig it up.

I got it, but I still think quintuple sovereigns are very much an unpopular coin, for a few reasons.

Bargain.

True, but in the scheme of things I think there are much fewer collectors of high denomination gold than pennies or sovereigns for example. I imagine a big reason for most people not collecting them is the price, so their higher prices and apparent popularity seem a little strange.

I saw a 1937 proof five pounds listed for $25,000 AUD recently, and I remember five years ago it would have been listed for a fifth of that. I know the price of gold has probably gone up but I would have said that five pound coins were close to the bottom in terms of popular British coins.

Doesn't Freeman mention that all 1960s pennies had slightly different reverse dies? I think Gouby glossed over it.

I saw someone on Coin Community recently say that an old Coin Monthly had something about the different rim width 1967 halfpennies being struck at different mints. Would anyone happen to remember that article? And more broadly, are there any other articles that mentioned what was struck at the two mints and when? I've always taken the simplistic approach that all the predecimal stuff was probably struck at London, but what I saw now has me wondering if maybe the 1970 proof varieties are down to the two mints as well.

Yeah the Royal Mint in London definitively shut its doors in... 1976 I assume - the last coin was struck in November 1975. Great, thanks @AardHawk - much appreciated!

Yeah I'm looking for who struck how many sets in each year. So far I found that 74,293 sets were struck at Llantrisant in 1973-1974 and that apparently took the total to 730,610 (so presumably another ~25,000 were struck in 1974-1975). I imagine the previous ~656,000 were struck both at London and Llantrisant from 1970 (or maybe even 1969 onwards). I got the 1973-1974 mintage from the August 1976 Australian Coin Review but I don't think previous issues have all Royal Mint reports unfortunately. And it seems like London was definitely being wound down by that point - I need to re-read A New History of the Royal Mint to see exactly what was happening...

Nice - I don't collect Italian coins but it looks like a good reference.

So the Australian Coin Reviews I dug up say a few bits and pieces were struck in London in 1973-1975 but by then, 1970 proof set production was happening at Llantrisant.

Hm, I have a couple of Australian Coin Reviews that have Royal Mint reports in them (1973/74 and 1975/76) so I might need to dig them out. Anyone know if Coin Monthly had annual reports from 1968 to 1975?

Oh great, thanks for the information! I don't know, I would have thought using two mints was inefficient, though it was 750,000+ sets from memory which is high even by today's standards.